Voicy does Norway

Hey Voicy, good to hear you are well in Viking Land. Kick em all inna panty.
 
Sorry for being so quiet over the last year - been a busy one. But enough about me...

So Norway's national broadcaster launched a concept called "Minutt for minutt" some years back which was literally live TV minute-by-minute. 1st it was on a train driving through the countryside, then it was from the view of a cruiseship. Literally real-time tv coverage with nothing in particular happening.

It became a huuuge success and people would flock to the location where the train or ship was just to "be on tv".

This year due to lockdown, they decided to do something different and instead they sent their own radio show staff/presenters on "sommerbilen", or "summer road trip" from the most northern to most southern points of Norway.

Each episode is about an hour or so long of them just driving along the road, stopping to chat to the locals and getting served waffles by everyone, playing local music, interviewing locals of some renown while they drive - and of course having a helicopter follow them to get some scenic aerial shots because why not.

The entire show is free to watch on the internet as well and they drive through my town as well:

 
More interestingly though...back in 2014 I met a dude from Durban who worked as a waiter up here in one of the towns I passed through. He married a norwegian girl and was keen on becoming a commercial diver. I've been through that town a few times since and never saw him again so I always wondered what happened to him.

Low and behold, guess who pops up on "Sommerbilen" - turns out he moved to Valldal, one of THE most scenic places in Norway. Opened up his own coffee bar called Khaya Barista Bar and won the regional 2019/2020 barista championship.

I couldn't remember his name so I wasn't sure if it was him or not, until they interviewed him and asked him how he ended up there and he mentioned exactly the place I met him at...same dreadlocks too. :D

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https://khayabaristabar.no/

The episode showing him talk English and Norwegian to the crew can be seen here:


I thought that was really cool.
 
More interestingly though...back in 2014 I met a dude from Durban who worked as a waiter up here in one of the towns I passed through. He married a norwegian girl and was keen on becoming a commercial diver. I've been through that town a few times since and never saw him again so I always wondered what happened to him.

Low and behold, guess who pops up on "Sommerbilen" - turns out he moved to Valldal, one of THE most scenic places in Norway. Opened up his own coffee bar called Khaya Barista Bar and won the regional 2019/2020 barista championship.

I couldn't remember his name so I wasn't sure if it was him or not, until they interviewed him and asked him how he ended up there and he mentioned exactly the place I met him at...same dreadlocks too. :D

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https://khayabaristabar.no/

The episode showing him talk English and Norwegian to the crew can be seen here:


I thought that was really cool.

Loved this! Inspiration for all those stereotypes!
 
More interestingly though...back in 2014 I met a dude from Durban who worked as a waiter up here in one of the towns I passed through. He married a norwegian girl and was keen on becoming a commercial diver. I've been through that town a few times since and never saw him again so I always wondered what happened to him.

Low and behold, guess who pops up on "Sommerbilen" - turns out he moved to Valldal, one of THE most scenic places in Norway. Opened up his own coffee bar called Khaya Barista Bar and won the regional 2019/2020 barista championship.

I couldn't remember his name so I wasn't sure if it was him or not, until they interviewed him and asked him how he ended up there and he mentioned exactly the place I met him at...same dreadlocks too. :D

View attachment 884928

https://khayabaristabar.no/

The episode showing him talk English and Norwegian to the crew can be seen here:


I thought that was really cool.
I have to go try his coffee!!!!
 
@Voicy do you have permanent residence now? Norwegian citizenship?

My girlfriend's mother lives in Norway, and my girlfriend wants us to consider moving to Norway.
 
@Voicy do you have permanent residence now? Norwegian citizenship?

My girlfriend's mother lives in Norway, and my girlfriend wants us to consider moving to Norway.

Hey duder,

I do indeed. I'll be able to apply for citizenship later this year - which would entail me forfeiting the green mamba.

Whereabout in Norway does she live? What's your view on it?
 
Hey duder,

I do indeed. I'll be able to apply for citizenship later this year - which would entail me forfeiting the green mamba.

Whereabout in Norway does she live? What's your view on it?

I hear that dual citizenship is coming - not sure when.

The girlfriend's mother lives in Hamar. But we wouldn't move there - we would undoubtedly move to Oslo, or thereabouts.

My thoughts...

We currently live in London, UK. So, we're still a fairly new couple, but we like each other enough that we think it could get serious soon. If we're talking about marriage and children, we're also talking about where to live.

I don't hate the UK, but I don't love it. I think she dislikes it more than I do. I think most of her desire to move to Norway is to be closer to her mother. Especially when raising children, this could be handy. Neither of my parents are alive, so her parents would be our children's only grandparents. I do have other family, but mostly in South Africa, and I don't think I'd feel good moving us back to South Africa.

My worries about Norway are the climate - being further North than London, it is darker in winter. I don't mind the cold, but I don't like darkness. At least, I don't think short days. I feel much better with sun on my face. With that being said, it seems that Oslo gets more sun than London - just not in winter, when it gets less.

Also, I don't know what moving to Norway would be like for us. I'd need sponsorship as a software engineer. I don't have a British passport either.

She isn't Norwegian - she is from another country in the EU. So her path to immigration is a little easier than mine.

If this happens, it would be after we get married, so minimum 18 months away, but more realistically probably minimum 24 months away.
 
I hear that dual citizenship is coming - not sure when.
It's already established, but I'd have to get a request through the RSA Embassy - which is apparently a very very long process...and it has to be done BEFORE I can apply - so I just don't see the point in retaining it.
The girlfriend's mother lives in Hamar. But we wouldn't move there - we would undoubtedly move to Oslo, or thereabouts.
Ah nice, near Lillehammer. So dope for winter activities. As for Oslo...it seems to be the default destination for most South Africans. I don't see the appeal, but I guess if you're used to the JHB vibe, then it makes sense. Bergen has more of a Cape Town vibe to it, but it rains ALL.THE.TIME.
My thoughts...

We currently live in London, UK. So, we're still a fairly new couple, but we like each other enough that we think it could get serious soon. If we're talking about marriage and children, we're also talking about where to live.

I don't hate the UK, but I don't love it. I think she dislikes it more than I do. I think most of her desire to move to Norway is to be closer to her mother. Especially when raising children, this could be handy. Neither of my parents are alive, so her parents would be our children's only grandparents. I do have other family, but mostly in South Africa, and I don't think I'd feel good moving us back to South Africa.
Makes sense. I guess it takes some pressure off the situation vs someone having an urgency to move from SA.

There is a "South Africans in Norway" group on FaceBrick and there are weekly posts on there from prospectives with no qualifications, but a desperation to get out. I get it, but I still think that if you're "running from something" as opposed to "moving towards a goal" then Norway is not the easiest pick by a long shot.
My worries about Norway are the climate - being further North than London, it is darker in winter. I don't mind the cold, but I don't like darkness. At least, I don't think short days. I feel much better with sun on my face. With that being said, it seems that Oslo gets more sun than London - just not in winter, when it gets less.
I dunno hey, Oslo is considered "the far South" from where I live. It's BARELY above Scotland. I'm at 69°N. It all balances out though. In winter we have no sun, but in summer we have sun 24/7. The gulf stream also means that it gets up to 30°C here in summer.

I'd be more worried about constant rain. Again, Bergen and Stavanger. Oslo is fine, but too many people for my taste. I live in a town of 10,000 and the "traffic" annoys me.
Also, I don't know what moving to Norway would be like for us. I'd need sponsorship as a software engineer. I don't have a British passport either.
Finn.no is your friend. Some international companies offer sponsorships and don't even require you to speak Norwegian on the job. Getting in is MUUUCH simpler when you have a job offer.


She isn't Norwegian - she is from another country in the EU. So her path to immigration is a little easier than mine.

If this happens, it would be after we get married, so minimum 18 months away, but more realistically probably minimum 24 months away.
Fair. fair. Keep us updated on whichever way the pendulum swings for you my dude. <3
 
It's already established, but I'd have to get a request through the RSA Embassy - which is apparently a very very long process...and it has to be done BEFORE I can apply - so I just don't see the point in retaining it.
Are you referring to the Retention of Citizenship application? That took about 2 weeks for us (pre-pandemic).
 
It's already established, but I'd have to get a request through the RSA Embassy - which is apparently a very very long process...and it has to be done BEFORE I can apply - so I just don't see the point in retaining it.

Ah nice, near Lillehammer. So dope for winter activities. As for Oslo...it seems to be the default destination for most South Africans. I don't see the appeal, but I guess if you're used to the JHB vibe, then it makes sense. Bergen has more of a Cape Town vibe to it, but it rains ALL.THE.TIME.

Makes sense. I guess it takes some pressure off the situation vs someone having an urgency to move from SA.

There is a "South Africans in Norway" group on FaceBrick and there are weekly posts on there from prospectives with no qualifications, but a desperation to get out. I get it, but I still think that if you're "running from something" as opposed to "moving towards a goal" then Norway is not the easiest pick by a long shot.

I dunno hey, Oslo is considered "the far South" from where I live. It's BARELY above Scotland. I'm at 69°N. It all balances out though. In winter we have no sun, but in summer we have sun 24/7. The gulf stream also means that it gets up to 30°C here in summer.

I'd be more worried about constant rain. Again, Bergen and Stavanger. Oslo is fine, but too many people for my taste. I live in a town of 10,000 and the "traffic" annoys me.

Finn.no is your friend. Some international companies offer sponsorships and don't even require you to speak Norwegian on the job. Getting in is MUUUCH simpler when you have a job offer.



Fair. fair. Keep us updated on whichever way the pendulum swings for you my dude. <3

Thanks for this! Too much rain would put me off. I'd definitely want something a little warmer and less rainy than say Bergen.

It is funny how your perspective has changed - for me, Scotland is considerably further North than London. For you, it is quite far South.

Still early days. The plan is to visit the mother over Christmas this year. So, I think seeing Norway in winter should give me a good idea what I am in for. If we do it.

Luckily I'm not desperate to get out of the UK. I suppose Norway has a certain romantic appeal to it, but I'd be worried about having no support systems myself. No friends to have a beer with.
 
We enjoyed our time in Bergen, very Cape Town, but we must have gone on the day it didn't rain, it was a beautiful and sunny. (My wife refers to Bergen as the place with the awful Hotel.)
 
Are you referring to the Retention of Citizenship application? That took about 2 weeks for us (pre-pandemic).

That's the one. Unfortunately the closest embassy to me is Oslo, which is a 2 day round trip away. They also mentioned delays in the processing. I need to look into it again, but the last time I did, I wasn't very optimistic.

Luckily I'm not desperate to get out of the UK. I suppose Norway has a certain romantic appeal to it, but I'd be worried about having no support systems myself. No friends to have a beer with.
I hear you dude. I've been here almost 7 years and still don't have regular friends I can grab a beer with. They're not very open to becoming friends with outsiders up here...unless you get introduced via a common friend.
We enjoyed our time in Bergen, very Cape Town, but we must have gone on the day it didn't rain, it was a beautiful and sunny. (My wife refers to Bergen as the place with the awful Hotel.)

Considering it rains an avg of 239 days out of the year in Bergen (65%), you were lucky indeed! Sorry to hear about the sucky hotel :P

I worked on a mountain in Bergen for a week. We were dropped off with all our gear by helicopter, and then had to hike down and up every day. Hiking up in the rain sucked a lot.
 
That's the one. Unfortunately the closest embassy to me is Oslo, which is a 2 day round trip away. They also mentioned delays in the processing. I need to look into it again, but the last time I did, I wasn't very optimistic.


I hear you dude. I've been here almost 7 years and still don't have regular friends I can grab a beer with. They're not very open to becoming friends with outsiders up here...unless you get introduced via a common friend.


Considering it rains an avg of 239 days out of the year in Bergen (65%), you were lucky indeed! Sorry to hear about the sucky hotel :p

I worked on a mountain in Bergen for a week. We were dropped off with all our gear by helicopter, and then had to hike down and up every day. Hiking up in the rain sucked a lot.

How is your Norwegian?

Yeah, that is an issue for me. Look, it is also somewhat difficult to make friends in London, especially when you are older. But, the thing is, I have friends and family in London. I have no one in Norway.

Hmmm. Decisions decisions.
 
How is your Norwegian?

Yeah, that is an issue for me. Look, it is also somewhat difficult to make friends in London, especially when you are older. But, the thing is, I have friends and family in London. I have no one in Norway.

Hmmm. Decisions decisions.
I didn't know 2 words when I arrived, but now I speak exclusively Norwegian at work and to everyone else. It's only with the gf that we speak English - unless we have guests or are visiting anyone, then it's norwegian all the way. So I guess my level is "conversational."

I reckon the christmas visit is your best bet, but try to get out of the big cities...that's where the charm lies.
 
@Voicy

How would you describe social attitudes in Norway? How liberal or conservative are people?

How would you describe the government? Is it heavy handed? Do you feel "free" or is it a nanny state?
 
@Voicy

How would you describe social attitudes in Norway? How liberal or conservative are people?
Yes.
How would you describe the government? Is it heavy handed? Do you feel "free" or is it a nanny state?
Also yes.

There's a norwegian phrase "både og" ....roughly meaning "both and both".

The answers vary GREATLY depending on the region you live in...much like the US. If that answers your questions.
 
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