Vumatel launches Vuma Key

[Swa]

Not sure you’re understanding where the costs lie and how one offering is not the same as the other.

That's irrelevant.


They've watered down the value and you're now effectively getting an inferior more expensive product. Same is going to happen with Key in time. I said from the start Vuma went with the wrong technology for our market and they'd be unable to compete. Vuma Reach and Key are scams. Maybe @mylesillidge should do some investigation of the promises made with Vuma Reach and the eventual outcome as pound for pound (or mbps for mbps) it's more expensive.

What they should have done from the start is introduce lower packages to recoup network costs.

 

[quovadis]

That's irrelevant.

Disagree.

 

[Swa]

Disagree.

Did you even look at it? It's a cheaper (supposedly inferior) technology but is more expensive.

 

[quovadis]

Did you even look at it? It's a cheaper (supposedly inferior) technology but is more expensive.

Not gonna argue how a company prices their offerings and what technology they deploy as im not privy to the detail.

 

[Swa]

Not gonna argue how a company prices their offerings and what technology they deploy as im not privy to the detail.

We know the detail. It's cheaper (not necessarily inferior) technology but priced higher so the technology is irrelevant here.

 

[quovadis]

We know the detail. It's cheaper technology but priced higher so the technology is irrelevant here.

What percentage do you think the choice of “last mile” network contributes to the base cost?

Edit: network technology*

 

[Swa]

What percentage do you think the choice of “last mile” network contributes to the base cost?

Edit: network technology*

Does it matter? The supposed strengths and cost advantages play no role here. It would be the same as Checkers selling Class B fruit and vegetables at higher prices than Woolworths selling Class A.

 

[quovadis]

Does it matter? The supposed strengths and cost advantages play no role here. It would be the same as Checkers selling Class B fruit and vegetables at higher prices than Woolworths selling Class A.

See #21

 

[Swa]

See #21

LOL, I don't think you get it.

 

[quovadis]

LOL, I don't think you get it.

Says the guy using a fruit and vegetable analogy.

 

[Bad Ballie]

Since when does a private company get to dictate pricing based on income?,.....Sounds like Vumatel clients are subsidizing their welfare cases for them. Bet they feel theyr are entitled to do so as well.

 

[JustAsk]

Since when does a private company get to dictate pricing based on income?,.....Sounds like Vumatel clients are subsidizing their welfare cases for them. Bet they feel theyr are entitled to do so as well.

They dictate areas where to sell this product. Said areas mostly dictate income. Its a township ffs. Many businesses in many industries have offerings geared towards certain income brackets. Don't why you'd think its a first.

That said...a dude earning 20k living there will also only get this product. There is nothing else

Sometimes i wonder where do some of you people get your education from. You just read one line and blindly react.

 

[Swa]

They dictate areas where to sell this product. Said areas mostly dictate income. Its a township ffs. Many businesses in many industries have offerings geared towards certain income brackets. Don't why you'd think its a first.

That said...a dude earning 20k living there will also only get this product. There is nothing else

Sometimes i wonder where do some of you people get your education from. You just read one line and blindly react.

And this is the problem, there are many landlords earning R20k who can afford to pay for more. It's outdated to think in terms of low vs high income areas and their business model has failed with classic Vuma becoming cheaper while Reach is now more expensive.

 

[JustAsk]

And this is the problem, there are many landlords earning R20k who can afford to pay for more. It's outdated to think in terms of low vs high income areas and their business model has failed with classic Vuma becoming cheaper while Reach is now more expensive.

Not sure what you getting at.

The strategy that you think is outdated is widely used over the world for years. That's the reason you get entry level cars or tvs, different dstv subs, etc.

Anyways there is more speeds available. From techcentral (usually has more info and less fluff)

• 10Mbit/s (upload); 5Mbit/s (download): R99/month
• 10/10Mbit/s: R249/month
• 20/10Mbit/s: R399/month
• 40/10Mbit/s: R529/month
• 100/50Mbit/s: R799/month

There's nothing wrong with this product. Get over yourself.

 

[Randomwasavailable]

Must be an incentive skeem. Some ISP's give you a percentage off your bill the more "friends" you recommend to sign up using your code....the most I've seen is 20% off for 5 or more successful sign ups.

Another gets a 1000/1000 on Frogfoot-Vodacom for R1000. Wouldn't mind that.

 

[Swa]

Not sure what you getting at.

The strategy that you think is outdated is widely used over the world for years. That's the reason you get entry level cars or tvs, different dstv subs, etc.

Anyways there is more speeds available. From techcentral (usually has more info and less fluff)

• 10Mbit/s (upload); 5Mbit/s (download): R99/month
• 10/10Mbit/s: R249/month
• 20/10Mbit/s: R399/month
• 40/10Mbit/s: R529/month
• 100/50Mbit/s: R799/month

There's nothing wrong with this product. Get over yourself.

Another one who doesn't get it. Those options you mention are available everywhere. VW doesn't go you live in putzonderwater so all you get is a Polo or Samsung all you get is a 24". Vumatel's model has failed by the way they're now pricing their own products.

The strategy you mention isn't used anywhere I know of. Even in Africa it doesn't matter where you live you can choose a lower speed at a lower price or a higher speed at a higher price.

 

[semaphore]

Here we go... Discovery Health meets fibre.
Adrian Gore, is that you and this is your newest fleece?

Let me guess you interviewed at discovery, but walked away right?

 

[quovadis]

Another one who doesn't get it. Those options you mention are available everywhere. VW doesn't go you live in putzonderwater so all you get is a Polo or Samsung all you get is a 24". Vumatel's model has failed by the way they're now pricing their own products.

The strategy you mention isn't used anywhere I know of. Even in Africa it doesn't matter where you live you can choose a lower speed at a lower price or a higher speed at a higher price.

Omfg swa, do you not understand target markets and demographics and the effect on pricing and costing products and services? You're arguing as if you believe that Vuma's offerings are no different other than price.

 

[Swa]

Omfg swa, do you not understand target markets and demographics and the effect on pricing and costing products and services? You're arguing as if you believe that Vuma's offerings are no different other than price.

Do you seriously not get that there is now no difference and it is now in fact more expensive and not less? Just stop this dictating and give everyone the same options and let them decide what works for them.

 

[quovadis]

Do you seriously not get that there is now no difference and it is now in fact more expensive and not less? Just stop this dictating and give everyone the same options and let them decide what works for them.

Ok let's try explain it this way. In an area of low bandwidth demand they might run a GPON split of 1:128 and in a larney area where there is high demand for bandwidth they might run a 1:16 split. That means less fibre strands, less ports, less overhead.