Wa Uunet

I suppose this is not the biggest hickup of all time, but since the BT seems to work again, latency have noticably increased from mid 60ms to 200+ms during the day.

Pinging saix.net [196.25.1.200] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 196.25.1.200: bytes=32 time=216ms TTL=246
Reply from 196.25.1.200: bytes=32 time=198ms TTL=246
Reply from 196.25.1.200: bytes=32 time=217ms TTL=246
Reply from 196.25.1.200: bytes=32 time=232ms TTL=246

Ping statistics for 196.25.1.200:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 198ms, Maximum = 232ms, Average = 215ms

Its better in regards to the 700ms of pre-torrent shutdown, but maybe only few users know BT is working, so that would explain only the marginal ping increase?

Damn, uunet plz work on a final solution and no more temp solutions.

I trust you can do it tho, I love doing business with uunet even with the hickups.
 
Oops didn't check the pings during the day. I also get around 200ms to local. Mostly between 150ms-200ms. Before the BT capping I got between 600-700ms. Must say I am happy with the service ATM. Webafrica and UUNet are doing a great job. If only eDonkey would work again.
 
Dominic, I like the way you add in the "Except P2P/BT". :eek: I thought this was an unlimited, UNCAPPED service. Clearly it is limited!!!! What happened to the shaping. There is NONE. I havent gotten even get 1 byte since they "SHAPED" the protocol!! That's removing my friend NOT SHAPING! Trust me, I am LUMPING it. They misled me into believing it was a shaped service. :mad:
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1. Uncapped = unlimited bandwidth. Which as stated before, UUNET are providing. The correct word you are looking for is shaping. However they should at least provide a min of say 10-20kb/sec because I will agree that 0 bytes is unaccpetable - I would like feedback on other UUNET users on this issue.



Given, if I was involved in piracy, and as stated earlier in this thread I am innocent until proven guilty of illegal activities and FURTHERMORE,... I don't see ANYHWERE in this agreement where it states that I am NOT allowed to use the maximum download speed out of my P2P/BT download protocol when using this service. Regardles of whether it is Legal or Illegal! Check for yourself!!
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On the Web Africa website it states clearly that P2P is shaped, which in effect says that you won't the full 50kb/sec.

And you STILL havent answered my question before about the Home Users Are you avoiding it or something? ;)
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As I said in another UUNET thread, they should do both of the following.

A) Have a business pacakage and a home user's pacakage that have different protocol priorities [Business HTTP, FTP, Email etc] [Home BT, online gaming.


B) Buy additional bandwidth.
 
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Dominic I do agree with A and B but I do think that UUNet will have to shape BT on a home user account. If they don't the same thing will happen where the network grinds to a halt. I personally think that Telkom is the only provider that can provide BT without any real limits because they control the bandwidth. Just a question, does anyone know if Telkom pays a fee for the SAT3 cable or if they can use and sell as much as they want without paying anything? I know they own about 20% of the 120GBps but do they have to pay anything extra?
 
yup its doesnt matter what you download legal or not, they offered uncapped and should stick to that or advertise uncapped adsl with no illegal downloads.

remember when ayce lied about being uncapped everyone went anal on them this is the same thing. they lied to everyone about uncapped they never said we couldnt download anything illegal.

UUNEt are liars and are cheating ppl outta hard earned money
 
just been reading through entire volumes of bickering, to everyone here, thanks for making the forum a valuable place of entertainment, I haven't had such entertaining reads since http://www.mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=11929&page=9&pp=15

What do I think?
I can't quite make out if they've killed BT, shaped it heavily, or closed it in office hours, the latter 2 would be viable options for a good service.
I'll keep a close watch, and when things stabilize and they've come to a constant agreement on how their network is managed, look forward to joining the uunet club!

To everyone here bitching, its probably due to the usage of a minority of selfish souls, pulling 100GB p/m of utter nonsense that will never be watched/jerked off over anyway, that UUNET has had to put in place such regulations!

this is the type of usage that killed Sentech, and will kill any uncapped offering .

I agree with Karnaugh's stand in General, UUNet is trying to make something affordable and decent at the same time (while maintaining a profit margin), due to high price of Bandwidth, we must make some sacrifices, if they open up BT during callmore equivalent, so be it, if they cap it to 128/64K, so be it. Other users will use the service as required for their needs, everyone will enjoy it.

If its not the service for you, go back to TKadsl, no loss in setup fees etc, so y not.

As a last item, if anyone wants to further challenge their 'Honourable' Bittorrent usage, before flaming me, or karnaugh any further, post a list on this forum of what legal Bittorent downloads you have done to amount to 80GB EVERY MONTH.
or even what illegal usage, I'd be interested to know what to do with so much pr0n.
where do u store all this data, how many drives, is there a dusty stack of DVD's full of divx rips that have never been watched?

heres a list for the really unstable person looking for the best OS, downloading what he will use, and updating his PC's
10 Linux CD's per month - 6.5GB
Kernel source/applications/tarballs - 5 GB
updates for 5 PC's + Virus defs < 1 GB

And for someone who likes his entertainment legal/illegal
10 Movies - 10 GB
200 songs @ 5 MB per song - 1 GB
50 hours streaming audio @ 20MB/h (64k) - 1 GB

For individuals/families to use more than 20 GB is pure broadband gluttony.

Obviously I would like to have massive usage like that, but in our country, we just not ready for it!

UUNET are liars
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no they are not, they said the service will be shaped somehow, they haven't capped anyone, just shaped troublesome ports
 
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Like I said, be more open-minded please!!!
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Hmm the same goes for the majority of guys on this thread, think of the position uunet is in and not only your own needs. Heck they have to pay for bw and you want it for cheap?
 
why do you have uncapped if your customers only need 20 gigs why not offer 20 gig package then? why uncapped

think about it uncapped means downloading rubbish its uunet's fault for not thinking

sign with us uncapped adsl but if you download more than 20 gigs its pure gluttony i never saw that statement anywhere just saw uncapped

what did you think ppl would do with uncapped, i think uunet was hoping if not praying ppl wouldnt abuse which is dumb. give someone in s.a your finger they will soon take you arm if given the chance.

update your website that says uncapped adsl

UNCAPPED ADSL BUT DONT ABUSE IT.
IF YOU DOWNLOAD MORE THAN 20 GIG ITS PURE BROADBAND GLUTTONY
OUR NETWORK CANT HANDLE MORE THAN 20 GIGS AMONTH PER USER SO PLEASE PAY US 700 RAND INSTEAD OF AYCE OR AXXESS WHICH ARE UNDER 600 FOR 30 GIGS.

REGARDS


UUNET UNCAPPED I MEAN 20 GIGS A MONTH
 
Killadoob you're missing the issue completley. It is not about the capping issue, it is about shaping of P2P and particulary BT.
 
im not missing it shaping it means having a uncapped account is pointless because you will never download more than 30 gigs of info with bitt or edonkey and thats my point, you wont need uncapped because you will hardly download anything in the month?

is that the point?
 
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Hmm the same goes for the majority of guys on this thread, think of the position uunet is in and not only your own needs. Heck they have to pay for bw and you want it for cheap?
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Shame - think about UUnet/MCI and their multi billion dollar earnings - perhaps we should cut Telkom some slack too.

I do have to agree with killadoob - 30gb of useable bandwidth seems better than an unlimited amount of unusable bandwidth.
 
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i think everyone who wants bitt or p2p should sign with ayce or axxess for 30 gigs rather mess with this unreliable company
 
Clipse said:
Damn your an expressing kid. Now I know why the grandparents allways said, "Kinders moet gesien word, en nie gehoor word"

It all makes sense.
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Like I said before, He is EXTREMELY opinionated!
 
but i think this place get to personal everyone has their own view and we shouldnt get personal but argue and keep it nice not personal

why should someone be labelled stupid for having an opinion?
 
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Hmm the same goes for the majority of guys on this thread, think of the position uunet is in and not only your own needs. Heck they have to pay for bw and you want it for cheap?
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cheap??? You joking. Go to Europe, there you can call it cheap...

What we are paying here is an exorbitant high price for almost nothing.
 
Well this pretty much looks like a tennis court with the argument going back and fourth on whether or not uunet is doing the right thing. Maybe I should join in as I am, too, a uunet subscriber.

Uncapped is for anyone that wants to go beyond the 3gigs we've been getting for the past two years, at only twice the price we had to pay for 3gig. Yes I download a wackload of videos/mp3s from the internet, but clearly this caused the uunet network to suffer and they aren't equipped to handle 60gigs of bandwidth streaming through every adsl account they hand out.

What am I going to do about it? Find another service. I can't complain to them for not giving me what I want when its only in MY best interest. If I want something that can yield to the excessive amount of bandwidth I want to use, then i'll just have to pay (yet again) double the price or go for one of the other 30gig offerings out there.

And for all the people that still think having uncapped bandwidth is all about them and just about them being allowed on BT or any p2p for that matter, there are many companies that need to use that amount for business transfers. We, for one, need to upload dvd/cd ISO's to Taiwan on a regular basis as it needs to be pressed overseas. It's not difficult to find more examples so please stop being so naive toward this matter.

I don't want to insult anyone and hopefully I didn't appear to do so. Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion but maybe if you'd think outside of yourself before rubbing it off on everyone you might get a better response. Heck who knows, maybe you'll even convert someone to your side :)
 
jabalsad said:
Well this pretty much looks like a tennis court with the argument going back and fourth on whether or not uunet is doing the right thing. Maybe I should join in as I am, too, a uunet subscriber.

Uncapped is for anyone that wants to go beyond the 3gigs we've been getting for the past two years, at only twice the price we had to pay for 3gig. Yes I download a wackload of videos/mp3s from the internet, but clearly this caused the uunet network to suffer and they aren't equipped to handle 60gigs of bandwidth streaming through every adsl account they hand out.

What am I going to do about it? Find another service. I can't complain to them for not giving me what I want when its only in MY best interest. If I want something that can yield to the excessive amount of bandwidth I want to use, then i'll just have to pay (yet again) double the price or go for one of the other 30gig offerings out there.

And for all the people that still think having uncapped bandwidth is all about them and just about them being allowed on BT or any p2p for that matter, there are many companies that need to use that amount for business transfers. We, for one, need to upload dvd/cd ISO's to Taiwan on a regular basis as it needs to be pressed overseas. It's not difficult to find more examples so please stop being so naive toward this matter.

I don't want to insult anyone and hopefully I didn't appear to do so. Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinion but maybe if you'd think outside of yourself before rubbing it off on everyone you might get a better response. Heck who knows, maybe you'll even convert someone to your side :)
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I am all for another provider in this case and I will put that into place as soon as the end of the month arrives, but it is now the inconvenience and downright inconsideration from UUNet's side for not controlling the situation better!

Noone can deny the mistakes they have made with this service:

For Eample:
1. The unexpected amounts of downloads from the ADSL users through their "UNCAPPED" service which should have been better planned.
2. Allowing the resellers to sell the "so proclaimed Business package" service to home users who OBVIOUSLY would make use of P2P/BT to do their downloads.
LEGAL or NOT!!
3. Misleading the consumer by calling it "Shaped" when I don't even get 1K!!!!!
4. The TERRIBLE projections they did before this service went LIVE. Obviously this was not properly investigated!

Customer Satisfaction is all about "Satisfying the CUSTOMER" and NOT satisfying the Provider. I mean this is what we all get drilled into our heads since we were kids. This should be common sense to everyone! We pay for a service and we expect to be able to use the service!! How hard can that be to understand for people!!! I mean geeeeez....

"COME ON!!" :eek:
 
Big professional mistakes have been made. Unnet cannot shoulder the blame on all those "naulty downloaders". We were not told not to use those "bad" BT, eMule or others, because then we would have never signed in. And now...A lasting solution have to be found, but I am asking myself how and what. I believe UUNET when they saying they don't get enough support from our enemy number one, but what can WE do more then we do right now? Fighting Telkom needs time, that we are all aware.

A lot have being said no, we should calm down, but now whats next. UUNET shot themself in the leg, most of their customers will run away, because they don't get anymore what they want.
Really I don't have a clue anymore.

Tata, until tommorrow morning!
 
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Celemasiko said:
Big professional mistakes have been made. Unnet cannot shoulder the blame on all those "naulty downloaders". We were not told not to use those "bad" BT, eMule or others, because then we would have never signed in. And now...A lasting solution have to be found, but I am asking myself how and what. I believe UUNET when they saying they don't get enough support from our enemy number one, but what can WE do more then we do right now? Fighting Telkom needs time, that we are all aware.

A lot have being said no, we should calm down, but now whats next. UUNET shot themself in the leg, most of their customers will run away, because they don't get anymore what they want.
Really I don't have a clue anymore.

Tata, until tommorrow morning!
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Finally!!!
 
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