[Warrior] Tanking in 4.0.1

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Oculate

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So with the new talents, new abilities and revamped rotation how are you finding tanking simple heroics?

I got thrown in the deep end with HOR hc as my first instance last night :eek:

Out of the 7 warriors I spoke to, none of them are happy about the cooldown on HS/Cleave not to mention the double rage cost :(

Adding rend to our rotation hasn't given too many problems - Macro'ing it to Charge:

Single target click Charge once and when Thunderclap needs to be used, click twice :p

With that being said, I had mobs casually ignore me after my aoe trash rotation (Charge, rend, thunderclap, shockwave) :erm: DPS clicks one aoe ability and they pull aggro. Gief hotfix for aoe tanking! :rolleyes:

My single target threat (on bosses) has doubled from 8k tps to 17k tps :D So thats one positive side so far

I haven't touched reforging yet, what should we be stacking now? parry looks good thanks to the Hold the Line talent, but does it still suffer DRs?

PS Fury warriors aren't having much fun with their changes either :o
 
You should try to keep your Dodge/Parry even, so dont try to max one over the other, letting them both go up at the same time equally will give you the most benefit for preventing damage.

Single target rotation is easy as always, prioritize based on:
SS -> Revenge -> Victory Rush (with Impending Victory) -> Devastate. HS at 60+ rage.

AoE on the other hand...well for now its still TC -> Rend -> TC stack up that buff and SW a hard one, but usually you lose mobs pretty fast. Your idea of macroing rend to charge is not a bad one, but dps still has to wait a bit before they can go ape **** on AoE.

Fury...don't even get me started!

However there is light in the very oh so deep dark tunnel.

1) We think Fury, Arms, Feral cat and Retribution dps is too low and we will be buffing them.
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Source: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=27187856197&sid=1
 
goot to see single threat is better, i was getting pissed at our warrs, 1 was doing 10k tps on saurfang >.<, didn't know that low was possible :P

and p.s dont make threads like this half of the guys is still trying to get the patch going lol
 
Yay arms is getting buffed too! Not that I have played with the new changes yet. :(

Do you do target swapping during aoe tanking?
I usually set Vigilance on the highest melee dps so that when he gets any damage, taunt is refreshed, so i constantly tab and taunt whilst applying rend and devastation to each target. (and obviously I do Thunderclap, the shout, shockwave). Haven't had much issues in the past that way but will have to see now.
 
hereticangel said:
goot to see single threat is better, i was getting pissed at our warrs, 1 was doing 10k tps on saurfang >.<, didn't know that low was possible :P
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RAS :p any higher than 10k tps required MD or tricks on the tank(s)

hereticangel said:
and p.s dont make threads like this half of the guys is still trying to get the patch going lol
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Noes >.< I can't access the wow-forums/tankspot from work... this is the only place I can discuss :twisted:
 
i normally get about 20k tps as dk, dk easy mode spam rune strike and icy touch, though need new rotation now :(
 
Tinuva said:
Single target rotation is easy as always, prioritize based on:
SS -> Revenge -> Victory Rush (with Impending Victory) -> Devastate. HS at 60+ rage.
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Didn't spec Impending Victory since Victory rush only procs on xp/honor gain?

Tinuva said:
AoE on the other hand...well for now its still TC -> Rend -> TC stack up that buff and SW a hard one, but usually you lose mobs pretty fast. Your idea of macroing rend to charge is not a bad one, but dps still has to wait a bit before they can go ape **** on AoE.
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I tried that, by the time I was ready to hit TC for the 2nd time in that rotation the mobs were scattered :(
Tinuva said:
Fury...don't even get me started!

However there is light in the very oh so deep dark tunnel.


Source: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=27187856197&sid=1
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Retri doesn't need anything, I facerolled 4k dps on my average ilvl 210 retri...damn FOTM >.>
 
Well if you haven't spec it, just remove it from the priority list.

As for AoE packs, dps needs to wait just 2 seconds longer and you should be able to hold trash, come cata I will just let those dps'ers tanks the mobs, even Blizzard said thats how it should be if they don't give you a small headstart.

Yeah I don't think retri is 100% balanced, but ohwell that is what Blizzard posted.
 
Tinuva said:
Well if you haven't spec it, just remove it from the priority list.
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I read up on my phone regarding Impending Victory... Nice for boss fights where you've been hitting a boss for ages and won't loose aggro, then you can effectively dps it when under 20% :)

FFS, looks like 2x prot specs would be best - 1 for trash/heroics - the other for boss fights

I do need to spend more time fiddling with my rotation

Tinuva said:
As for AoE packs, dps needs to wait just 2 seconds longer and you should be able to hold trash, come cata I will just let those dps'ers tanks the mobs, even Blizzard said thats how it should be if they don't give you a small headstart.
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Yeah, guildies seem to be mentioning at the start of an hc:

Guildie said:
Anyone who opens up before you get a chance to touch the mobs with a decent threat move with the changes made now, deserve to have a hefty repair bill. Tell them to wait for Shockwave before starting
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hereticangel said:
goot to see single threat is better, i was getting pissed at our warrs, 1 was doing 10k tps on saurfang >.<, didn't know that low was possible :P

and p.s dont make threads like this half of the guys is still trying to get the patch going lol
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i quit tanking because of this. I only tanked as offspec in 25man when needed. Might reconsider if the expansion encourages dps to think a bit for a change :D
 
In our ICC the warrior tank was doing fine. I remember him saying WTF I shield slam (or something like that) for 38k! Prot pvp anyone?
 
SnowWar said:
In our ICC the warrior tank was doing fine. I remember him saying WTF I shield slam (or something like that) for 38k! Prot pvp anyone?
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I hit up the weekly (XT) last night, after a couple teething problems (sacrficed 4 expertise rating for 1% mastery and 2set t10, figuring out a stable single target rotation without spamming), I managed to tank him without hassles (noob OT taunted off me and died on the first Tantrum :mad:)

btw Shield Slam crit + Shield Block up hits insanely hard :D
 
J0n0 said:
You lose the block though... :( Wish there was some ability that reset it to ready state when it activates.
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I can't see my buffs currently :o Waiting for Satrina to update his/her mod :whistle:
 
Oculate said:
I can't see my buffs currently :o Waiting for Satrina to update his/her mod :whistle:
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I still have to play with the updated client. :p

But I do remember you losing the block "buff' the moment you shield slam. But that's when Shockwave and concussion blow comes in very handy when in pvp. Gives some time for your next slam. :)
 
J0n0 said:
I still have to play with the updated client. :p

But I do remember you losing the block "buff' the moment you shield slam. But that's when Shockwave and concussion blow comes in very handy when in pvp. Gives some time for your next slam. :)
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Be prepared :eek:

After viewing many discussions on Protection mastery, it seems only good at high levels o.O
 
@J0n0

I just tested Shield Slam while Shield blocking, and can confirm it stays active for the 10sec duration after :)
 
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