#WaterShare stupidest idea yet!!

C4Cat said:
What happens when the water gets to it's destination?
It's going to be distributed to individuals so will end up in smaller bottles anyway.
And how much water will be lost due to spillage when filling up peoples containers?
I think the way they are doing it is much better.
Makes it easier and more convenient for people to both donate and receive the water.
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It also contributes needlessly to pollution.
 
schumi said:
Some on these cases were crisis ie: in Free-sate and Operation Hy6drate people were drinking sewer water
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Sure, I think its the best quick fix they could do. Its not the best way but I do hope it means that people will be getting the water they need.
 
konfab said:
It also contributes needlessly to pollution.
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How so?

The people will arrive with plastic bottles etc etc to get the water anyway.

Yes pollution is a problem, but getting every drop of water to those who need it is somewhat more important RIGHT now in my opinion, and unfortunately the areas that this is destined for are problematic with pollution control in any case.
 
ToxicBunny said:
How so?

The people will arrive with plastic bottles etc etc to get the water anyway.

Yes pollution is a problem, but getting every drop of water to those who need it is somewhat more important RIGHT now in my opinion, and unfortunately the areas that this is destined for are problematic with pollution control in any case.
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Them re-using plastic bottles is a good thing.

There is also the problem of space efficiency as I mentioned before in a previous post as well as cost.
 
konfab said:
Them re-using plastic bottles is a good thing.

There is also the problem of space efficiency as I mentioned before in a previous post as well as cost.
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But you are blithely ignoring the water loss at delivery...

The 5l bottles are actually quite space efficient when they are stacked. I would guess about 15% of the space is wasted, which is considerably less than the amount of water that would be lost if it was a large container.

The water is going to places where the guys will crack open a 75mm fire hydrant to fill up a 2l bottle, and then leave the hydrant running for hours.
 
ToxicBunny said:
But you are blithely ignoring the water loss at delivery...

The 5l bottles are actually quite space efficient when they are stacked. I would guess about 15% of the space is wasted, which is considerably less than the amount of water that would be lost if it was a large container.

The water is going to places where the guys will crack open a 75mm fire hydrant to fill up a 2l bottle, and then leave the hydrant running for hours.
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That is with a big government tanker

I am talking about a small 4x4 one that can be drained with a smaller hose.
 
konfab said:
That is with a big government tanker

I am talking about a small 4x4 one that can be drained with a smaller hose.
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And they will still have huge amounts of water loss... the crowds will be pushing and going mental to get their water so it will be almost impossible to control properly.
 
Tap water: 1c a litre
Bottled water: R2.00 a litre

It is madness to distribute 5L plastic bottles.

The transport cost is the same for both. I just think it is totally stupid to get companies to donate millions to buy 5L water bottles and then truck them in to the drought areas.

The suppliers must be making an absolute fortune out of desperate people.

What I would suggest is that they hire or buy water tankers, trailers and containers and get people to refill those 5L they already have. Even if you spill 99% of the water on the ground, it is still cheaper than bottled water.
 
konfab said:
That is with a big government tanker

I am talking about a small 4x4 one that can be drained with a smaller hose.
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As far as I know these companies are using resources already available to them, buying more things will add to the cost ,time,insurance an example in Etheweni Municipality found it would cost over 200K to hire 10 bakkies per month
 
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schumi said:
As far as I know these companies are using resources already available to them, buying more things will add to the cost ,time,insurance an example in Etheweni Municipality found it would cost over 200K to hire 10 bakkies per month
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Let us work on the example in the article:
Gift of the givers raised 2500l of water. To which they then distributed using a bakkie. Most people donated 5l water bottles. Each of which costs about R20 if you buy it from a shop.
Pick and pay online

So they raised 500 bottles, which ended up being worth about R10 000 in bottled water.
With that you can buy a 2500 l Jojo vertical water tank which can be topped up for orders of magnitude less.
2500l Jojo

It is armchair activism at best.
 
Don't forget that that jojo tank would have to be secured 24/7, also add the cost of a truck/van to transport that jojo tank/water to it, we would have to know if drinking water is readily available I don't private companies can take water from a municipal supply ,so these private companies would have to find a drinkable safe water supply which is nearby , also the Jojo tank takes away from the mobility ,as far as I know they do different areas each day , so for example if the bottles are in Umhlana you can take 10 to North Coast and 10 to South Coast with the JoJo tank you would have to bring the JoJo tank from its previous location, the aim is to reach as many people as fast as possible and use as much on actual water and not on infrastructure
 
I saw on Facebook a lot of people taking photos of water they are donating....and sticking their company details on the bottle, like a free ad. Eastvaal motors (or something like that) was one. LOL :rolleyes:
 
schumi said:
Don't forget that that jojo tank would have to be secured 24/7, also add the cost of a truck/van to transport that jojo tank/water to it, we would have to know if drinking water is readily available I don't private companies can take water from a municipal supply ,so these private companies would have to find a drinkable safe water supply which is nearby , also the Jojo tank takes away from the mobility ,as far as I know they do different areas each day , so for example if the bottles are in Umhlana you can take 10 to North Coast and 10 to South Coast with the JoJo tank you would have to bring the JoJo tank from its previous location, the aim is to reach as many people as fast as possible and use as much on actual water and not on infrastructure
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Fine, you get a jojo tank that fits in the back of a bakkie.
 
I consider arm chair activism as making no physical differences , this is actually dropping of water and at some point some one will drink that bottle of water so I disagree that its arm chair activism
 
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