WAZZUP speed test arrived:)

human75

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i just join wazzup internet yesterday.and i must say speed is very good.i did some speed test here is the results:
1- i downloaded file from local saix net:
http://i29.tinypic.com/2w6rmn8.png
2- than i download a file from download.com's USA server:
http://i31.tinypic.com/6roxnl.png
3- and rapidshare:
http://i30.tinypic.com/2ngvb75.png
if you look at the current speed you can see that i am getting very reasonable speed for 384KB line.So far so good.Goodbye Axxess(no manner company) welcome WAZZUP!
Thanks Andre,Albert and Nadia....
 
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Is that the pre-paid or the uncapped?

Could you also do a "tracert 196.4.79.35" if you don't mind? :)
 
Is that the pre-paid or the uncapped?

Could you also do a "tracert 196.4.79.35" if you don't mind? :)

it is uncapped here is your tracert report:
traceroute to 196.4.79.35 (196.4.79.35), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 10.0.0.2 (10.0.0.2) 3.598 ms 4.074 ms 4.990 ms
2 41.177.45.1 (41.177.45.1) 377.641 ms 377.985 ms 378.151 ms
3 196.6.121.38-backbone.cybersmart.co.za (196.6.121.38) 379.587 ms 381.992 ms 384.149 ms
4 wbs-ip-esr-1-wan.telkom-ipnet.co.za (196.25.247.97) 386.041 ms 388.217 ms 390.139 ms
5 tpr-ip-esr-1-ge-6-0-0.telkom-ipnet.co.za (196.43.10.86) 392.286 ms 394.484 ms 401.421 ms
6 196.43.14.235 (196.43.14.235) 403.097 ms 189.841 ms 63.487 ms
7 * * *
8 * * *
9 * * *
 
don't want to sound rude, but that trace looks awe full.

Tracing route to lethargy.saix.net [196.4.79.35]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms dsl-185-84-1.dynamic.wa.co.za [41.185.84.1]
3 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms vl105.cr.gw.cpt.za.wa.co.za [196.220.59.250]
4 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms vl34.er.gw.cpt.za.wa.co.za [41.185.0.34]
5 11 ms 14 ms 14 ms upstream.vl101.gw.cpt.za.wa.co.za [196.220.59.226]
6 37 ms 34 ms 35 ms tpr-ip-esr-1-ge-6-0-0.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.43.10.86]
7 tpr-ip-esr-1-ge-6-0-0.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.43.10.86] reports: Destination net unreachable.

Trace complete.
 
It also looks like they are selling cybersmart bandwidth.
 
i am very happy indeed with my download speed.40KB/S on rapidshare with 384 line so it is very fair enough for me.i was really pissed of with axxess.my download speed was just 1kb/s.Also they use SAIX so SEACOM did not effected me:)
 
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It's a Cybersmart thing (SAOL reselling for me), pings aren't the greatest, CT is 50 while JHB and even my own town is 70-80.

Still very playable online and the best ISP ever. No shaping and uncapped. :P

Also, that's gonna take you a while to download the Clash of the Titans DVD, human75. If only us 384k guys could pirate more speeds like you're doing with DVDs ;) :D
 
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Again thx to wazzup:):)why you download dvd version:)download 500mb MKV version better quality small size:)save your bandwidth:) lol
 
You using freerapid there? I am currently using freerapid and downloading as a free user from hosts and get between 35 to 40KB/s on a good day and when mweb shapes the crap out of me around 30KB/s. Just get a $3 hosting account in Germany somewhere and load a rapidleech server onto it, always unshaped. :)
 
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i have rapidshare premium:).wazzup+rapidshare premium i always download 40KB/s:)this is best uncapped speed if you compare with other crap isp(axxess for instance).
 
i have rapidshare premium:).wazzup+rapidshare premium i always download 40KB/s:)this is best uncapped speed if you compare with other crap isp(axxess for instance).

Nice, just such a schlep to move ADSL and cancel mweb, still keen to make the move in the near future.
 
don't want to sound rude, but that trace looks awe full.
...

Hi there,

I was running a traceroute just now and remembered this post. This is the result I got tonight:

Tracing route to lethargy.saix.net [196.4.79.35] over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 23 ms 22 ms 23 ms 1.1.177.41-discover.co.za [41.177.1.1]
3 50 ms 84 ms 45 ms 196.6.121.38-backbone.cybersmart.co.za [196.6.121.38]
4 48 ms 47 ms 46 ms wbs-ip-esr-1-wan.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.25.247.97]
5 71 ms 69 ms 68 ms tpr-ip-esr-1-ge-6-0-0.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.43.10.86]
6 tpr-ip-esr-1-ge-6-0-0.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.43.10.86] reports: Destination net unreachable.

I'm located in Durban, which I'd guess would have an impact (not sure where SAIX servers are located?).

Definitely looks better than the previously posted tracert - to my uneducated eye, anyway.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Andrew
 
upsets me to know that all cybersmart subscribers (myself included) have to share bandwith with other ppl downloading the whole internet (unshaped) :(.
I mean, SAOL tried uncapped... fail! Then cybersmart themselves tried uncapped weekends...fail! Now wazzup trying uncapped with cybermart's bandwidth?!
Maybe WA is doing something right by not offering any uncapped options?
 
You guys realise like they resell another main ISP's bandwidth just like every other reseller, right? It always cracks me up to see a new thread about <flavour of the month ISP> and how awesome their speeds are but it's no different than what you would get from the top tier ISPs.

Reseller-ISP is giving you amazing speeds? That's great bro, your research and stress testing from clicking a few buttons on speedtest.net or downloading 2 files is truly a wondrous thing.
 
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You guys realise like they resell another main ISP's bandwidth just like every other reseller, right? It always cracks me up to see a new thread about <flavour of the month ISP> and how awesome their speeds are but it's no different than what you would get from the top tier ISPs.

Reseller-ISP is giving you amazing speeds? That's great bro, your research and stress testing from clicking a few buttons on speedtest.net or downloading 2 files is truly a wondrous thing.

My first reaction is: So what? And I seriously mean that with no disrespect to you. Whether my ISP is a reseller or not is a non-issue to me.

Do I really, really care where the bandwidth comes from? Do I care whether I am buying Sasol fuel from a Caltex, Zenex or Sasol garage? As long as my car works, I'm happy.

The issue is not speed - rather that I can deal with a friendly bunch of people that seem to have a practical approach to managing their available bandwidth (and therefore their service offering), as well as not have to worry about managing my cap each month.

The truth is that speed seems to be a real issue for those that frequent this section of the forum, hence the requests for speed tests and traceroutes, which have been done as per the requests.

I have no horse in this race - everyone needs to find an ISP that meets their needs and expectations and stick with them.

Cheers,

Andrew
 
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What are Wazzups FUP's? I assume they won't like 24/7 p2p downloading if they don't shape it.
 
Andre, the owner of Wazzup (Andre@WazzupInternet) answered this (as clearly as it probably can be answered within their operating philosophy) on this thread.

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I would like you to put a rough figure on what you consider abuse on your 384 Uncapped service. A private message will be fine. I don't download the internet of send spam, but occasionally (when bored) may use around 25-30 gig at a push. Would I get a huffy phone call for that?

Hopefully there would be no huffy phone calls ;) and ps. I was not serious about hijacking the thread :)

Your proposed usage falls within what I would classify as reasonable. Trouble for us comes when users insist on their right to download nearly twice that.

(We're not in a position to make any promises beyond the above and unfortunately I cannot put a figure on what is considered to be uncapped. The choice therefore is (A) our way of doing unshaped, or (B) some other ISPs shaped approach.)

Cheers,

Andrew
 
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Hi,

I must say I am very happy with them. I don't need a 24/7 line to download any and everything in order to delete it again and the service is the best I have experienced up to now. No unplanned issues and when there were any I got an email saying that line speed will be slow and a good reason with regular updates.
It's there, it's fast and that's all I care about at the moment.
 
My first reaction is: So what? And I seriously mean that with no disrespect to you. Whether my ISP is a reseller or not is a non-issue to me.

Do I really, really care where the bandwidth comes from? Do I care whether I am buying Sasol fuel from a Caltex, Zenex or Sasol garage? As long as my car works, I'm happy.

The issue is not speed - rather that I can deal with a friendly bunch of people that seem to have a practical approach to managing their available bandwidth (and therefore their service offering), as well as not have to worry about managing my cap each month.

The truth is that speed seems to be a real issue for those that frequent this section of the forum, hence the requests for speed tests and traceroutes, which have been done as per the requests.

I have no horse in this race - everyone needs to find an ISP that meets their needs and expectations and stick with them.

Cheers,

Andrew

I am, however, just wondering who your ISP was before you switched to WAZZUP and why you switched to WAZZUP specifically. Surely it wasn't just a simple "i'm sure they're good folk" gesture. I mean, if you never used the internet before and ended up choosing them then I can understand completely, but moving from a top tier ISP to someone who merely resells their bandwidth is just a ridiculous move from my point of view as you just add more "hurdles" between you and sorting out a problem you might be experiencing.

As an example, moving your telkom line management to an ISP like mweb or webafrica is dumb because if you have a problem it takes them days to get in contact with telkom due to paperwork and unnecessary procedures they have to follow.

Look no offense, I am not attacking you or your opinion - my post was actually aimed at the entirety of mybroadband as 99% of people on here have no idea how internet in this country works and they end up making bad decisions and spreading false information, further contributing to the problem.

As a further example, from your post above you quote Andre@WazzupInternet saying that "We're not in a position to make any promises beyond the above and unfortunately I cannot put a figure on what is considered to be uncapped."

He says this because he has absolutely no control over the bandwidth he is reselling and can't do any shaping or unshaping or anything for that matter, apart from looking at traffic graphs. People who buy internet kinda expect their ISP to be in charge of the bandwidth they are selling - most of the time it is not the case.
 
I am, however, just wondering who your ISP was before you switched to WAZZUP and why you switched to WAZZUP specifically. Surely it wasn't just a simple "i'm sure they're good folk" gesture. I mean, if you never used the internet before and ended up choosing them then I can understand completely, but moving from a top tier ISP to someone who merely resells their bandwidth is just a ridiculous move from my point of view as you just add more "hurdles" between you and sorting out a problem you might be experiencing.

Wazzup is my first ISP (in my personal capacity). To be honest, my decision ended up coming down to price. Based on the testimonials here, WebAfrica (Titan) and OpenWeb were both strong contenders in my decision-making process. But I just got to the point of information overload from reading myBB, resulting in decision paralysis. So I jumped at Wazzup. Their price and the customer testimonials here were enough to convince me.

I appreciate what you're saying, though I would propose another perspective on the issue. Sometimes it makes sense to have someone with a contractual relationship with the top tier provider advocating for a group of users when there is a problem. Basically, a broker of sorts. While I realise that brokers have generally gone the way of the dodo in the short term insurance business, there are still those that don't want to deal with claims, policy changes and so forth directly with the insurance companies. When I have a problem with my DSL connection, I put in a support request and let my ISP sort it out with their upstream provider.

Where this logic would not make sense, or be acceptable for me, is in the context of a business internet connection. Then it only makes sense (to me at least) to have a contract directly with the top tier provider. When there is downtime, it costs business and money. Contact directly with the top tier provider is essential. At least then one also has the big gun of breach of contract (and the associated legal costs, but that's for another discussion), whereas as a private user in a home context, we are pretty powerless (as evidenced in many other threads on this forum).

What I can't really fathom is why I'm not paying a premium for this ("broking") service. I'm getting an uncapped service (the South African definition of the term) that seems to operate the same (or better) than those offered by top tier providers (it does what it said on the box), yet I'm paying the same or less. At this stage, I'd normally be looking for the camera and Leon Schuster behind a bush, but the performance Wazzup customers are experiencing seems to be consistently good.

Look no offense, I am not attacking you or your opinion - my post was actually aimed at the entirety of mybroadband as 99% of people on here have no idea how internet in this country works and they end up making bad decisions and spreading false information, further contributing to the problem.

None taken. I agree that more transparency is needed. As long as we share good quality, honest information with each other on this forum, the ISPs can only improve their offering. I've always tried to be upfront about what I wanted the internet for, and why I ended up choosing the ISP I did. I have no illusions regarding the fact that ISP I chose may not be good enough for a good many people. My decision to utilise their services may even be considered idiotic by some - but that's cool.

As a further example, from your post above you quote Andre@WazzupInternet saying that "We're not in a position to make any promises beyond the above and unfortunately I cannot put a figure on what is considered to be uncapped."

He says this because he has absolutely no control over the bandwidth he is reselling and can't do any shaping or unshaping or anything for that matter, apart from looking at traffic graphs. People who buy internet kinda expect their ISP to be in charge of the bandwidth they are selling - most of the time it is not the case.

This is not the interpretation I took from what Andre said. The general population around these parts wants to have a definition of uncapped = infinite GB per month, however in the real world (again, South Africa) it looks like it comes down to a number. Some ISPs have an AUP where they clearly state when they're going to throttle you/cut you off. Some ISPs state this number and change it fairly regularly (as they run out of bandwidth). Some ISPs don't quote anything and then start throwing the book at all the "abusers" simultaneously. My take is that Wazzup is not prepared to commit to a number, otherwise they will get inundated by hundreds of new customers demanded that many Gigs per month. And we all have seen what the result is when that happens... The clients that are signing up with Wazzup are getting what they signed up for - but I think it all boils down to what your personal definition of "uncapped" is versus that of the ISP you are evaluating (and yes, I do realise that uncapped is uncapped, as in infinite GB per month. But I also know that we are on the southern tip of Africa and all is not always as it seems. We're a way off from the dream).

Additionally, none of the Wazzup clients that have posted their feedback here have experienced any form of shaping, so I'm guessing that when they say unshaped, they mean unshaped.

Just some point of views. I don't think there is a right answer for this - otherwise this forum would be one page long. :)

Cheers,

Andrew
 
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