'We are an evil nation'

No less than 10 attacks were reported in Limpopo during the past couple of weeks. People were hacked with axes and a farmer was burnt alive inside his house.

Sick. The best answer I have received about crime here is tribalism. But India has tribes as well, so I don't think this answers the reason behind such a violent society.
 
It does appear that South Africa is, in general, morally bankrupt.

How we got here and where we go from here and two very difficult questions to answer.
 
So were an evil nation, thats understandable when weve also got the dumbest people.
 
Well the two in question is from ZIM but in general this is just repeating what I have been saying for years on end on this forum therefore labeled a racist! Thanks guys, Your country is doing great by African standards at least we are not at the bottom of the barrel relating to African scum or are we!
 
There are evile people in this world. We just have a higher percentage of them here. Plus the fact the ANC gives them free reign. Then again they're both one and the same so no surprise there.

There is only one way to deal with them and that is to remove them. No amount of education, love or sympathy is going to change them. Accept it and deal with it.

My humble opinion of course :D
 
What I want to know is most of these crimes are commited by the younger 16-25 year old margin. Correct me if I'm wrong with that statement but if I'm not, wtf are they teaching\telling these "kids" in the background? I'm 22 and I have no first hand experience of the apartheid days. So on that level alone I would have no reason for personal hatred. In sticking with the context of the article we are simply labelled as the enemy through the next generation. (poor vs rich, and of course the race factor as the majorities of each sit on opposite sides)

Am I being silly here, or is there some merit in that?
 
Where do we lay the blame? Who will accept responsibility? With those questions asked, as already mentioned, where do we go from here. Media and bad parenting may be partially to blame, but as the article mentions, crimes are being committed by those that are discontent with the current government.

Labuschagne said many promises were made during transformation to a democratic system. Many expectations were created and those who lived in terrible conditions, continued to suffer.

Many people believed their lives would change overnight. Many of these promises have still not been realised.

"Meanwhile some people realise that things won't get better overnight."

These people experience intense anger and take it out on those who are better off than themselves.

"They want to get back at those whom they attack for everything they don't have and for what happened in the past."

What I don't understand is why they don't vote in someone new if they have no faith in those currently in office.
 
Well the two in question is from ZIM but in general this is just repeating what I have been saying for years on end on this forum therefore labeled a racist! Thanks guys, Your country is doing great by African standards at least we are not at the bottom of the barrel relating to African scum or are we!

Thew thing with you is that you always put a racist twist to everything that happens. That's why everyone regards you as racist.:rolleyes:
 
Where do we lay the blame? Who will accept responsibility? With those questions asked, as already mentioned, where do we go from here. Media and bad parenting may be partially to blame, but as the article mentions, crimes are being committed by those that are discontent with the current government.



What I don't understand is why they don't vote in someone new if they have no faith in those currently in office.

I disagree with these assertions that crime is committed out of discontent for the government. I believe most of the crime in this country is due to an inherently lazy work ethic in this country - and as a consequence *some* people would rather resort to crime to get what they want than work for it. That coupled with an overwhelming amount of expectation for handouts. It's extremely easy to resort to crime in this country - a very small police force riddled with corruption and incompetence and an even worse success rate means people can largely get away with crime.

In fact, I would go as far as to say that greed is the primary driver for crime in South Africa. The violence is likely due to heightened emotion to instill fear, so as to facilitate the same returns in future.
 
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Thew thing with you is that you always put a racist twist to everything that happens. That's why everyone regards you as racist.:rolleyes:

Nope the facts speaks for itself. Race is a issue as they are the majority and thats why unfortunately or factually is the cause of the problem as the jails is too small to accommodate the 50% or whatever problem individuals!
 
this is what happens when you:
stop educating an entire nation (Note how the older black folks who got some British schooling in the pre-Apartheid era, when we were still part of the Commonwealth, are massively more well-spoken and coherent, than the younger people who were educated under Apartheid)
This is what happens when you:
consistently give a mostly badly or almost entirely uneducated nation, the promise and hope of a better life - and then - apart from a few short years when Mandela was President - change nothing substantially in their lives.

The people in charge of SA now, whether deliberately or accidentally, have brought terror, destruction, nihilism, and disillusionment, into the political/social arena.

47 million people in SA - and only how many tax-payers? 11 million? 14 million? The majority population aren't part of anything, and due to their ignorance, will mostly never be able to be part of anything. That alone tells you that SA is dead in the water, and what we're seeing that looks like 'business as usual' - are the parasites crawling on the corpse.

The sad thing to me, is that I know that it's going to get far worse. Far more violence is approaching, more crime, more hatred, more of everything that the rest of Africa either has worked through, or is still struggling with.

SA was the most advanced and built up infrastructure on the entire African continent - the only country that was comparable to the Western model in many ways. Point being - it still has a long way to fall, to crumble and disintegrate to the point of parity with the rest of the continent.

And nothing at this point can stop the process. No whining, moaning, 'petitions', outraged newspaper columns or articles - anything that follows the Western model of global culture and protest - these will be useless. As you've already seen in a thousand ways, it doesn't matter how much you 'voice your objections' to anything. Whether its Telkom, ICASA, things the ANC intends to do..
'Voicing objections' and other non-violent models just don't work in the African model of government. They're ignored, or slowed to a crawl causing years of drawn out legal mumbo jumbo.

All that's left to folks in SA, is either to keep quiet, leave, or follow the African model, and attempt an overthrow in some way, and hope that the next people in power, will eventually allow a genuinely democratic system to finally come to SA.
 
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