We choked again: Kirsten

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South Africa's coach Gary Kirsten admitted his team deserved the tag of chokers after it crashed to a seven-wicket defeat by England in the Champions Trophy semi-final on Wednesday.

"We need to be honest with ourselves. I think we did choke again today," Kirsten said after the disappointing one-sided game at the Oval that lifted England into their second Champions Trophy final.

"It's a horrible word but we have to front up. We let ourselves down today."

It was the first time a South African coach had publicly accepted what was widely believed in the rest of the cricket world -- that the Proteas faltered in crunch games.

South Africa, the top-ranked Test team and a formidable opponent in world cricket, have struggled to get past the semi-final stage in major one-day tournaments since winning the inaugural version of the Champions Trophy in Bangladesh in 1998.

Alastair's Cook men outplayed the Proteas after electing to bowl on an overcast day at the Oval where England had lost to the West Indies in the final of the same event in 2004.

South Africa were reduced to 80-8 by the 23rd over before a record ninth-wicket partnership of 95 between David Miller and Rory Kleinveldt gave the total some respectability.

But Jonathan Trott hit 82 not out and Joe Root made 48 during a 105-run stand to help England surpass the modest target in the 38th over of a disappointing semi-final.

Kirsten, the former South African opener who ends his two-year term as coach with Wednesday's match, said he had expected his team to perform better in the semi-final.

"I think we had better expectations of our performances," he said. "To be blown away with the bat with the quality of batsmen we have got in our batting line-up is very disappointing."

"There has definitely been an inconsistency to our cricket. When we play in big tournaments like this, we do get exposed."

Kirsten, who coached India to victory in the 2011 World Cup before moving back to South Africa, said he shared the blame for the team's debacle.

"Do I leave the team in a better state?. I don't know," he said. "We certainly have not improved, and that is where a question mark needs to come over me. So maybe it's a good decision that I'm leaving."

England's Cook, meanwhile, was confident his team can win Sunday's final at Edgbaston, Birmingham, against the winners of Thursday's all-Asian semi-final between India and Sri Lanka in Cardiff.

"We can win it, without a doubt," the England captain said.

"You need people to stand up and deliver to win one-day internationals and it has happened for us in the last two games we have played.

"This England side in particular has delivered when the chips have been down and the pressure has been at its highest. So I have no doubt that our guys will turn up on Sunday and do it.

"Hopefully it's now our turn."

Cook, whose team begins the highly-anticipated Ashes series against Australia next month, said it would be a "great achievement" to win the Champions Trophy.

"It's hard to compare it with the Ashes, but at the start of the summer we set out some clear goals and one of them was to win the Champions Trophy," he said.

"We got to the final in 2004 and we could not quite get over the line. Hopefully this time we can go one better."
 

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Kirsten knows that describing the performance of the SA players in that game as choking is a compliment.

That was more that choking. They didn't pitch for the game and weren't competitive.
 

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I'm not so sure I agree with Kirsten. I'd describe the few SA-batting overs I saw as them being more overwhelmed by the England attack.

To me, Graham Smith is the epitome of a batsman 'choking' 90% of the time he's at the crease.
 

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I'm not so sure I agree with Kirsten. I'd describe the few SA-batting overs I saw as them being more overwhelmed by the England attack.

England really stepped up, and showed why they deserve the win. Sadly however, with that being said, the South Africans still choked. There is no other way to look at it really.
 

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You don't choke in the first 10 overs of the game, you choke in the last 10 overs.
 

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You don't choke in the first 10 overs of the game, you choke in the last 10 overs.

Or the ten years of your career.
Every major competition they've failed to make an impression.

Its not just about today.
Its the tournament - ITS EVERY OTHER BLERRY TOURNAMENT.

FFS - don't know why I woke up with the TV on that channel today...
 

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Or the ten years of your career.
Every major competition they've failed to make an impression.

Its not just about today.
Its the tournament - ITS EVERY OTHER BLERRY TOURNAMENT.

FFS - don't know why I woke up with the TV on that channel today...

Getting mad at the Proteas choking is like getting mad at a taxi in traffic - pointless. There is nothing you can do about it and they'll just do it again.

It's actually pathetically sad.
 

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You choke when you have something in your grasp and mess it up. SA didn't do that, they were not good enough to even be called chokers. That was, by far, the worst performance by any team at the ICC champs in a match.

Windies, I would like to apologize for stuffing up your chances and then wasting ours so badly.
 

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Getting mad at the Proteas choking is like getting mad at a taxi in traffic - pointless. There is nothing you can do about it and they'll just do it again.
I disagree 100%. They need someone to do for them what Dr. Molly Griswold (Rene Russo) did for Roy McAvoy(Kevin Costner) in "Tin Cup". She helped him to get his mind tuned in for the big occasions.
 

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I disagree 100%. They need someone to do for them what Dr. Molly Griswold (Rene Russo) did for Roy McAvoy(Kevin Costner) in "Tin Cup". She helped him to get his mind tuned in for the big occasions.

I think enough people have tried. It's truly hopeless. And if they win the next one you just won't know if it was a fluke or not :/
 

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At least the AB shrugged off their chokers tag, now it only us left.

We should just scrap the shortened format of the game and stick with test match cricket - I usually only watch test match cricket, only when I'm at someone else's place do I watch the limited overs game.
 

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At least the AB shrugged off their chokers tag, now it only us left.

We should just scrap the shortened format of the game and stick with test match cricket - I usually only watch test match cricket, only when I'm at someone else's place do I watch the limited overs game.

Shorter format is the future, test is dying, no wonder the other teams are changing their game.
 

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Shorter format is the future, test is dying, no wonder the other teams are changing their game.

Not with the Ashes still drawing full houses and the Boxing day tests booked well in advance. Test cricket will remain relevant for a while still.

I think I'm going to start doing this...

I just love watching teams with two spinners in tandem - especially in the sub continent - get to wake up during the holidays and just watch some good cricket.

Not this flash stuff they give us now.
 

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Test cricket will remain relevant for a while still.



I just love watching teams with two spinners in tandem - especially in the sub continent - get to wake up during the holidays and just watch some good cricket.

Not this flash stuff they give us now.

+1
 

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To choke you have to be in a place of dominance and then screw it up. We were never in a place of dominance against England. We were totally outplayed but superior bowling and batting. Our cr@ppy shot selection was also dismal.

We weren't beaten, we were thumped by a better team.
 
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