Weight Loss Thread 2014

One - there is nothing wrong with carbs. Per se. It's the type of carb that's the problem.

I take in about a 100g of carbs a day, but they come from green veg, oats and sweet potato. Nothing processed! Without it I'd die when lifting heavy weight when strength training.
 
APoc184 said:
I assume the majority of the people are using the Paleo diet?

Help a noob out here. Are spices and salt and pepper still okay?

When making a stew/curry/stirfry. What do you have with it? As rice/pasta/bread is all loaded with carbs, right?
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I just make a nice saucy curry/stew and eat it on top of salad :) Or just wrap it up in some lettuce.
 
Chicken Boo said:
How do you guys handle invitations to traditional meals? Doesn't really matter what culture it is, carbs are pretty much guaranteed to be on the table. Call it a cheat meal? Sit there awkwardly picking at what agrees with LC agenda? Bring your own options? Feign illness? Decline altogether?
Doesn't it feel very, not quite snobbish but kind of elitist to have to explain to people why you're not going to try the bread or the potatoes etc.

"But fruit salad?! SURELY you can eat THAT??"
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Well I will have a problem when I go to Mauritius and meet family for dinners etc. Always a meat and starch.
 
APoc184 said:
I assume the majority of the people are using the Paleo diet?

Help a noob out here. Are spices and salt and pepper still okay?

When making a stew/curry/stirfry. What do you have with it? As rice/pasta/bread is all loaded with carbs, right?
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Eggs takes the place of the starch for me. So stew/curry/stirfry omelette would be my approach. Pretty good alternative mind you.

Salt, pepper and spices continue to be used yes.
 
sand_man said:
Eggs takes the place of the starch for me. So stew/curry/stirfry omelette would be my approach. Pretty good alternative mind you.

Salt, pepper and spices continue to be used yes.
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Ah thanks. This quite a change for us so expect plenty more noob questions in the future.

Tonight we are making a lemon dorado fish with roasted veggies.
 
sand_man said:
Eggs takes the place of the starch for me. So stew/curry/stirfry omelette would be my approach. Pretty good alternative mind you.

Salt, pepper and spices continue to be used yes.
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Ah thanks. This quite a change for us so expect plenty more noob questions in the future.

Tonight we are making a lemon dorado fish with roasted veggies.
 
APoc184 said:
Hi Guys.

Is it too late to still join the challenge?

If so... Still want to join the thread for some advice and motivation.

Started exercising last week and almost died :D
It is going much better now and I manage to do about 15min of cardio a day now with as many pushups as I can manage after the cardio workout.
Also bought a punching bag and will be doing some more cardio there.
Next step is putting up a pull-up bar next to the punching bag.

I am obviously very unfit and quite overweight.

I am 1.87m and currently (and for the past 2 years) tip the scale at around 104kg.

My biggest challenge is the diet. Extremely difficult for our family to cut out potatoes and pasta but sure as hell going to give it a try. I'm not a big vegetable eater. I have however managed to cut out almost all sugar(like sweets & drinks) from my diet.

Baby steps I guess.
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Welcome to the party.

Keep making small and steady changes... they will add up over time :)
Trying to change too much at once just makes it harder to stick with and easy to 'relapse'.

Don't view fat loss as a competition (unless you are the sort of personality that needs that drive). Use this thread as motivation but forget about it as a challenge. Even the last one was so poorly organized it just sputtered out in the end (I stand to be corrected but there was no winner. er I mean, we were all winners! Right?). And in comparison with this thread it would now appear to have been rather well run.
Sure we all want to be thin NOW if not yesterday but we didn't get out of shape in a matter of days, going the other way also takes time. Fat loss is a situation where gratification has to be delayed.

Don't do pushups to failure btw, stop 1-2 short. Keep your form tight, quality over quantity

APoc184 said:
I assume the majority of the people are using the Paleo diet?

Help a noob out here. Are spices and salt and pepper still okay?

When making a stew/curry/stirfry. What do you have with it? As rice/pasta/bread is all loaded with carbs, right?
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Regular table salt no not really, get (pure) rock or sea salt rather. Pepper is fine, but be careful with spices, if it's plain like turmeric it's fine but things like "Chicken spice" often have sugar and other added nasties.

Most people in here seem to be doing some kind of low-carb but there other approaches as well.

As Orihalcon pointed out, not all carbs are equal, rather go for low GI where you can.
 
Orihalcon said:
One - there is nothing wrong with carbs. Per se. It's the type of carb that's the problem.

I take in about a 100g of carbs a day, but they come from green veg, oats and sweet potato. Nothing processed! Without it I'd die when lifting heavy weight when strength training.
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Why? :confused:

Surely the increased adrenaline levels that a person can achieve from a low carb diet would give greater lifting potential, and therefore greater gains in your workout?
 
Archer said:
Why? :confused:

Surely the increased adrenaline levels that a person can achieve from a low carb diet would give greater lifting potential, and therefore greater gains in your workout?
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Nope. Carbs are a primary energy source. And as great as it is when your body shifts to ketones to torch fat - and it does - carbs provide a better energy source.

In my case I just removed my pre workout carb source - kept it with fats etc. After 2 weeks of this I was so flat in gym it was crazy. Squats went down from 150kg for reps to 110kg. Bench dropped from 130kg to 100kg. Useless.

Put my carb meal back in place (25g carbs from oats, some raisins) and within 5 days of training my power output was back to where it should be.

I know it sounds ridiculous that it could have such a big impact, and ymmv, but it certainly has for me. I'm cutting fat just fine right now without having to go <20g carb per day while building power and muscle.
 
Orihalcon said:
Nope. Carbs are a primary energy source. And as great as it is when your body shifts to ketones to torch fat - and it does - carbs provide a better energy source.

In my case I just removed my pre workout carb source - kept it with fats etc. After 2 weeks of this I was so flat in gym it was crazy. Squats went down from 150kg for reps to 110kg. Bench dropped from 130kg to 100kg. Useless.

Put my carb meal back in place (25g carbs from oats, some raisins) and within 5 days of training my power output was back to where it should be.

I know it sounds ridiculous that it could have such a big impact, and ymmv, but it certainly has for me. I'm cutting fat just fine right now without having to go <20g carb per day while building power and muscle.
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It's because type I muscle fibre (fast twitch) can only use glycogen as fuel. Keto is gonna be rough if you plan on sustained high intensity activity. I'd have been curious to see if, over time, you would return to your normal lifting numbers on keto. General body adaptation to fat burning is on the order of weeks, muscular adaptation on the order of months.
 
Chicken Boo said:
It's because type I muscle fibre (fast twitch) can only use glycogen as fuel. Keto is gonna be rough if you plan on sustained high intensity activity. I'd have been curious to see if, over time, you would return to your normal lifting numbers on keto. General body adaptation to fat burning is on the order of weeks, muscular adaptation on the order of months.
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Agreed.

For the type of training I am doing while I do want to lose weight and get cut, I cannot sacrifice on carbs as a fuel source. Sure by going full keto and sacrificing strength I could do it faster, but I am not prepared to lose muscle mass. Eating at a deficit, watching my macros and staying in those margins work just as well as full blown ketosis and you don't have to sacrifice power and lean mass building potential. This is what I've found in my personal example.
 
What do you guys eat in the morning and do you go with a 3 or 6 to 8 meals a day thing?
 
I'm also interested in the breakfast thing.

My thoughts are boiled eggs and left over veggies and/or steak/chicken/fish from the previous night.
 
Hey guys

Can anyone tell me what they are actually consuming per day on their diet ?

I used myfitnesspal to work out what calories I need for weight loss, which was 1900 per day. In 5 meals a day this seems like enough to keep me going without any issues or cravings, and I'm lost 2kg's in a few weeks. Feels a bit slow though.

I was chatting to someone else, and reading a PDF he sent me, and it states I should be eating 3600 calories a day....

fuuck

always so much contradictory information out there.

I don't think I could afford to eat 3600 calories a day to be honest.
 
Cube3 said:
Hey guys

Can anyone tell me what they are actually consuming per day on their diet ?

I used myfitnesspal to work out what calories I need for weight loss, which was 1900 per day. In 5 meals a day this seems like enough to keep me going without any issues or cravings, and I'm lost 2kg's in a few weeks. Feels a bit slow though.

I was chatting to someone else, and reading a PDF he sent me, and it states I should be eating 3600 calories a day....

fuuck

always so much contradictory information out there.

I don't think I could afford to eat 3600 calories a day to be honest.
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stop chasing calories and eat the right stuff, calorie counting is a waste of time
 
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