Weight loss

DJ... said:
I highly doubt it makes financial sense to add such a large cost base to a low volume item. So while it may be expensive, definitely check it out in more depth. If it is liquid, then email them and get it in writing regarding the process.
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It is not liquid... When I first began eating coconut oil I think it was actually all hand produced in mozambique.
 
D3nz said:
DJ agreed that it might help on a LCHF diet :p
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Yes, it should. But remember that if you adopt a low-carb, low-sugar diet without the fat intake, you will lose weight, but you'll gain fat. Effectively your body will go into energy preservation mode, and will consume muscle mass and store fat. It's kinda essential if you're going low-carb to consume fats, or...well...you'll just get fatter, you'll become unhealthier, and you'll lose precious muscle...
 
DJ... said:
Yes, it should. But remember that if you adopt a low-carb, low-sugar diet without the fat intake, you will lose weight, but you'll gain fat. Effectively your body will go into energy preservation mode, and will consume muscle mass and store fat. It's kinda essential if you're going low-carb to consume fats, or...well...you'll just get fatter, you'll become unhealthier, and you'll lose precious muscle...
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Agreed :) which is where the butter coffee comes in. I really need to up my intake of fat.
 
DJ... said:
Yes, it should. But remember that if you adopt a low-carb, low-sugar diet without the fat intake, you will lose weight, but you'll gain fat. Effectively your body will go into energy preservation mode, and will consume muscle mass and store fat. It's kinda essential if you're going low-carb to consume fats, or...well...you'll just get fatter, you'll become unhealthier, and you'll lose precious muscle...
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Absolutely agree. If you cut out carbs you MUST replace that with good quality fat. Replacing it with protein is a no-no.

Anyway, I'm out for now, need to get back to work.
 
D3nz said:
Agreed :) which is where the butter coffee comes in. I really need to up my intake of fat.
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Remember that fat is an efficient form of energy intake, in that it requires little processing digestively and has a very high food energy content by mass, unlike carbs which undergo a very thorough breaking down process in the gut and aren't all that dense in energy in comparison. In fact, if memory serves correct, fats have about double the energy density of carbs. So where you might have consumed 200g of carbs per day on an ordinary diet, you'd only need to consume 100g per day of straight fat on a low-to-no-carb diet to match the energy levels.

So you really don't need all that much fat. Just read the labels of the stuff you're consuming and weigh proteins that contain fats. Also remember that proteins contain energy too, and you're more than likely consuming a fair amount of Kj in sugar from veg and fruit. So it's not as if you need a boatload of the stuff. You just need to maintain an equilibrium with your own body. Your intake is dependent on age, weight, general health, and even race to an extent.

Don't gorge on fat for the sake of it. Consume enough to maintain healthy energy levels in your body - that's really all that you will need. All you're trying to do is prevent your body from utilising other energy storage systems, like muscles. While I haven't looked into this in great deal, I imagine that if you consume a large quantity of fat, your body will have no need to utilise stored fat, and you're not going to shed anything at all...
 
DJ... said:
Remember that fat is an efficient form of energy intake, in that it requires little processing digestively and has a very high food energy content by mass, unlike carbs which undergo a very thorough breaking down process in the gut and aren't all that dense in energy in comparison. In fact, if memory serves correct, fats have about double the energy density of carbs. So where you might have consumed 200g of carbs per day on an ordinary diet, you'd only need to consume 100g per day of straight fat on a low-to-no-carb diet to match the energy levels.

So you really don't need all that much fat. Just read the labels of the stuff you're consuming and weigh proteins that contain fats. Also remember that proteins contain energy too, and you're more than likely consuming a fair amount of Kj in sugar from veg and fruit. So it's not as if you need a boatload of the stuff. You just need to maintain an equilibrium with your own body. Your intake is dependent on age, weight, general health, and even race to an extent.

Don't gorge on fat for the sake of it. Consume enough to maintain healthy energy levels in your body - that's really all that you will need. All you're trying to do is prevent your body from utilising other energy storage systems, like muscles. While I haven't looked into this in great deal, I imagine that if you consume a large quantity of fat, your body will have no need to utilise stored fat, and you're not going to shed anything at all...
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I don't eat any fruit and only low carb veg like cucumbers, lettuce and mushrooms. I eat mostly nuts and cheese and eggs. Not a lover of meat and I only eat when I'm hungry. Easy to know when you're hungry on the keto diet. What other healthy sources of fat do you recommend?
 
requiem said:
I got some ketosis strips from Dischem, hopefully within a week, with my activity level, I will hit ketosis...
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Need to check at my Dischem again, they said they don't have them.

DJ... said:
So you really don't need all that much fat. Just read the labels of the stuff you're consuming and weigh proteins that contain fats. Also remember that proteins contain energy too, and you're more than likely consuming a fair amount of Kj in sugar from veg and fruit.
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DJ, you're arguing your point from a position of someone who isn't taking the ketogenic diet into effect, in which case you're most probably right. Once you factor in the ketogenic diet, you're off-base.
 
Sin day is go: had KFC :twisted:

Tomorrow it's back to 6 good days :)
 
No weighin today.

The weekend was an unmitigated disaster foodwise. Spent the day at Kyalami yesterday and there was nothing to eat that wasn't bread/sugar/starch based.

So, will get back on track this week, and weigh in when I'm feeling better.

Drew you've seen the muscle vs fat weight photo haven't you?
 
Howzit guys, sorry ive been mia for the last two weeks, death in the family :cry: not been very sociable or talkative.

Down to 83kg, thanks to IF.

Enjoy your monday.
 
Sorry for your loss neva :(


Weight has not moved but it didn't go up, so I'm not complaining.

I was at a kiddies party on Saturday, sugar fest!! Had a class of coke n was in a trance for the rest of the afternoon. Its official, I'm not drinking that stuff again.

Feeling surprisingly positive after last weeks low, going to go back to gym even if it's only for the feel good factor.

Have a great week everyone!
 
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