Weight loss

Ol' Mean Bastid said:
which is all fine and well when your body is functioning optimally, however, if you've stuffed it up by overloading it with sugar and carbs then it's going to give you a real bad message
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I think its the people whose bodies aren't functioning optimally who should be listening to their bodies and not science... Obviously there are basic guidelines but everyone reacts differently to different things.

And I'm not talking about the obese people chowing 10 tonnes of deep fried food a day.
 
If this thread was a reality tv show the ratings would have so gone up this week :D
 
googoodoll said:
I think its the people whose bodies aren't functioning optimally who should be listening to their bodies and not science... Obviously there are basic guidelines but everyone reacts differently to different things.
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understanding how the body works and responds to the different food types (carbs, proteins, fats) is a good start, and there's sufficient good science out there.

once you understand that then you can start working with how your own body responds and what works best for you.

the problem is that if you work on guidelines that are based on bad science, political, industrial and personal agendas then you end up with the problems that the world is currently facing
 
googoodoll said:
And I'm not talking about the obese people chowing 10 tonnes of deep fried food a day.
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They need gastric by pass surgery.

But yes listen to ur body. It does tell you what's wrong. Only problem is most people have the ostrich mentality when it comes to eating. The 'I work hard so I can reward myself' notion works well with food and material things.
 
googoodoll said:
I think its the people whose bodies aren't functioning optimally who should be listening to their bodies and not science... Obviously there are basic guidelines but everyone reacts differently to different things.

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Nope.
If I listen to my body when I'm not low-carbing, this is what happens:
1 I eat some toast or cereal or other convenient carby food
2 Blood sugar rises
3 Insulin dumped into my system
4 Blood sugar crashes
5 MASSIVE hunger symptoms and cravings, no energy, headaches - so I eat more carbs
6 goto 1

To break this cycle I need to go cold turkey off carbs - which literally hurts like hell. I'm talking migraine-style headaches, muscle cramps, nausea, the shakes, sweats... Until my body adjusts, then suddenly I feel better than ever before. Problem is, my body still craves carbs. If I listen to it, then goto 1.
 
Sinbad said:
Nope.
If I listen to my body when I'm not low-carbing, this is what happens:
1 I eat some toast or cereal or other convenient carby food
2 Blood sugar rises
3 Insulin dumped into my system
4 Blood sugar crashes
5 MASSIVE hunger symptoms and cravings, no energy, headaches - so I eat more carbs
6 goto 1

To break this cycle I need to go cold turkey off carbs - which literally hurts like hell. I'm talking migraine-style headaches, muscle cramps, nausea, the shakes, sweats... Until my body adjusts, then suddenly I feel better than ever before. Problem is, my body still craves carbs. If I listen to it, then goto 1.
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:love: your work :D
 
Sinbad said:
Nope.
If I listen to my body when I'm not low-carbing, this is what happens:
1 I eat some toast or cereal or other convenient carby food
2 Blood sugar rises
3 Insulin dumped into my system
4 Blood sugar crashes
5 MASSIVE hunger symptoms and cravings, no energy, headaches - so I eat more carbs
6 goto 1

To break this cycle I need to go cold turkey off carbs - which literally hurts like hell. I'm talking migraine-style headaches, muscle cramps, nausea, the shakes, sweats... Until my body adjusts, then suddenly I feel better than ever before. Problem is, my body still craves carbs. If I listen to it, then goto 1.
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key point.

Obviously that is what your body wants then. Like meanie said - stuffing up your body with carbs and sugar is going to have its cons.

I'm not against science - I'm just saying if you realise you only lose fat cutting carbs then cut the carbs etc. The eating plan that lost me the most weight included rice and ******* mieliepap. Just because that works for me doesn't mean its scientifically correct or that it will work for someone else. If a ******* banana gives me a headache I'm not going to eat the ******* banana.
 
Sinbad said:
Nope.
If I listen to my body when I'm not low-carbing, this is what happens:
1 I eat some toast or cereal or other convenient carby food
2 Blood sugar rises
3 Insulin dumped into my system
4 Blood sugar crashes
5 MASSIVE hunger symptoms and cravings, no energy, headaches - so I eat more carbs
6 goto 1

To break this cycle I need to go cold turkey off carbs - which literally hurts like hell. I'm talking migraine-style headaches, muscle cramps, nausea, the shakes, sweats... Until my body adjusts, then suddenly I feel better than ever before. Problem is, my body still craves carbs. If I listen to it, then goto 1.
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key point.

Obviously that is what your body wants then. Like meanie said - stuffing up your body with carbs and sugar is going to have its cons.

I'm not against science - I'm just saying if you realise you only lose fat cutting carbs then cut the carbs etc. The eating plan that lost me the most weight included rice and ******* mieliepap. Just because that works for me doesn't mean its scientifically correct or that it will work for someone else. If a ******* banana gives me a headache I'm not going to eat the ******* banana.
 
Question, if carbs are the enemy why do the 2 seemingly largest/ thinnest nations eat carbs as a staple (Indians/Chinese)
 
Its rice. They not over eating on mac d super size meals and tons of sugar in soft drinks.

Those people also do lots of physical labour they not desk people
 
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DrewChan said:
Question, if carbs are the enemy why do the 2 seemingly largest/ thinnest nations eat carbs as a staple (Indians/Chinese)
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Look at the portions they eat and they don't sit on their behinds the whole day :D

This started off as a bad week for me but it's going good so far. Gym has been great. I have a feeling it won't show on the scale but I am not too fussed. My clothes are starting to show a difference.
 
Low carbing is working really well for me. Usually by now, I would have been happy with my 2kg loss, gotten bored and given up the diet. You guys are awesome at keeping me motivated :)
 
Some people could really use the carb cutting but in moderation there's nothing that will kill you that easily.

And D3nz, if that's what works for you - then way to go :)
 
guys, need some help, coz ive changed my eating habits over the last few months, i think ive hit quite a plateau, cant seem to drop any more weight, and the inital losses in cms have also slowed.. :(

Ideas? its very demotivating...:cry:

and before you say anything, i gym 4 times a week, plenty of water, low carbs, enuf protein and fats..

i am stumped..
 
TO plateau is normal. Just stick with it. You will come right, it just takes patience.
 
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