What does uncapped WiFi really mean?

I suggest that it becomes a requirement for an ISP to state at which point a user will be throttled and to what speed when advertising uncapped products. Uncapped with throttling after 3GB consumed is not the same as uncapped with throttling after 20GB. This just means that ISP can advertise any old crappy product as uncapped.
 
I suggest that it becomes a requirement for an ISP to state at which point a user will be throttled and to what speed when advertising uncapped products. Uncapped with throttling after 3GB consumed is not the same as uncapped with throttling after 20GB. This just means that ISP can advertise any old crappy product as uncapped.

I totally agree. This has been a consumer scam that has been used by SA companies for some time now with huge success. I would almost say that everyone here on MyBB has fallen prey in some way or the other to these promotions.
 
I think there will be a huge market for uncrapped internet. The kind of contract that you know exactly what you get. All the rules and fine print in five lines. No more.
 
I totally agree. This has been a consumer scam that has been used by SA companies for some time now with huge success. I would almost say that everyone here on MyBB has fallen prey in some way or the other to these promotions.

Lol I usually wait for others to be caught before choosing my uncapped or ISP capped account :D
 
Is there any law that states "they" have to mention throttling? uncapped you do not get disconnected but your speed reduced, that sadly is legal but also means that the provider cant support the speed advertised.
 
So here is a nice business model: 10Mbps uncapped* for R40 per month

(subject to the user not exceeding 1MB of data usage under the fair use policy. Users that abuse the 1MB fair usage policy will be throttled to 1kbps for the remaining part of that month)
 
So here is a nice business model: 10Mbps uncapped* for R40 per month

(subject to the user not exceeding 1MB of data usage under the fair use policy. Users that abuse the 1MB fair usage policy will be throttled to 1kbps for the remaining part of that month)

ASA: "Yep, that's not misleading at all"
Consumer: ":confused:"
 

Soft capped Internet access: Service is provided on a metered basis. After the customer exceeds a “soft cap”, they still have Internet access, but significant restrictions are applied, such as limited international access or vastly reduced access speeds

In the article they mention,

Nashua Mobile’s uncapped WiFi service highlighted that the term uncapped may include throttling and shaping, as long as a hard cap is not imposed on the service.

I disagree with the ASA on the point that throttling is effectively disconnection from the service.
 
I disagree with the ASA on the point that throttling is effectively disconnection from the service.

Correct, it cannot be considered as a disconnection, but damn, if you download at 900KB/s - sometimes 1-2MB/s and you are suddenly limited to 40kb/s - that may just as well be a disconnection!
 
The ASA should look at the bigger picture here... beyond just this one ruling and ask the question: "How can we get the industry to clearly define the term 'uncapped' so that it's beyond any confusion to a reasonable consumer?"
The ASA should get the stakeholders involved and get them to agree on:
1. What is the reasonable minimum data usage after which throttling can be applied on an 'uncapped' product
2. What is the reasonable minimum data rate which ISPs can throttle at for an 'uncapped' product

Then do some stats on utilisation on uncapped accounts, and come back and say "We think we should only be throttling 2% of consumers since they cause problems for the other 98%", and then give some sort of statistical report of what the 98th percentile of data usage is, and set that as the minimum data usage below which ISPs should not be throttling

And they'd have to do some similar exercise to determine what's a useable data rate that they can throttle the 2% at so that their connection is still perfectly useable, but won't negatively impact the service quality delivered to the 98%
 
Is there any law that states "they" have to mention throttling? uncapped you do not get disconnected but your speed reduced, that sadly is legal but also means that the provider cant support the speed advertised.

I cant see how leaving the tiny fact out can be construed as anything but false advertising. Ask anybody coming from the US if they've ever hear of a throttled service. These are just ploys to ensure that you don't get what you pay for. Of course the authorities are to useless to assist in any way
 
4. Types of broadband service

This document divides broadband services into four categories, as follows:

Unrestricted, uncapped Internet access: No cap. Acceptable use policy may only restrict illegal activity, not usage behaviour. May be linked to a specific access speed.
Uncapped Internet access: No cap. Acceptable use policy can place limitations on user behaviour and define “abuse” criteria which can result in service restrictions. May be linked to a specific access speed.
Soft capped Internet access: Service is provided on a metered basis. After the customer exceeds a “soft cap”, they still have Internet access, but significant restrictions are applied, such as limited international access or vastly reduced access speeds
Hard capped Internet access: Service is provided on a metered basis (limited traffic volume, or limited amount of time online). After the customer exceeds this cap, no access to the Internet is provided until the customer purchases additional services.
These four types of service are defined in more detail below. Please note that ISPA recognises that other types of services may be offered and that ISPA members are in no manner required to divide up their services in this manner.

ISPA wishes to emphasise that the above characterisation is intended as a guide to understanding broad categories of service and it

is not a requirement for ISPA members to use these categories
does not mean that the use of terms set out in this section in marketing material should be interpreted in accordance with this section.
4.1. Unrestricted, uncapped Internet access

Characteristics of an “unrestricted, uncapped” Internet access service are as follows:

There is no limit place on the total volume of traffic the customers uploads or downloads.
The service may still be linked to a specific speed (e.g. a 512 kbps unrestricted, uncapped service, or a 4 Mbps download/1 Mbps upload unrestricted, uncapped service).
The Acceptable Use Policy for unrestricted services may not place any restrictions on the customer’s usage behaviour, but may still place restrictions on illegal or unlawful use of the service (the ISP has no discretion in this regard).
Traffic-shaping may be implemented on an unrestricted, uncapped service. The general shaping policy to be applied to the service should be clearly disclosed.
4.2. Uncapped Internet access

Characteristics of an “uncapped” Internet access service are as follows:

There is no limit placed on the total volume of traffic the customers uploads or downloads.
The service may still be linked to a specific speed (e.g. a 512 kbps, uncapped service, or a 4 Mbps download/1 Mbps upload uncapped service).
The Acceptable Use Policy for uncapped services may place additional restrictions on the customer’s usage behaviour beyond illegal or unlawful usage. Customers not adhering to the AUP may have their services limited or soft capped. Details of usage restrictions and the consequences of breaching these restrictions must be clearly set-out in the AUP.
Traffic-shaping may be implemented on an uncapped service. The general shaping policy to be applied to the service should be clearly disclosed.
4.3. Capped Internet access: Soft cap

Characteristics of a soft capped Internet access service are as follows:

The access service is provided on a metered basis. Usually this means that the customer purchases a limited volume of traffic (typically per month) but it could also mean that the customer has purchased access for a limited amount of time.
After the customer exceeds this limit — referred to as the “soft cap” — their Internet access service has certain restrictions applied to it. Restrictions might include limited international access/only local access, or vastly reduced speeds. The up-front description of the service provided to the customer should specify what limitations will apply to the service once the soft cap is reached.
In most cases the “soft cap” resets at the end of the metering period, for example at the end of each calendar month.
Traffic-shaping may be implemented on a soft-capped service. The general shaping policy to be applied to the service should be clearly disclosed.
4.4. Capped Internet access: Hard cap

Characteristics of an Internet access service which only has a hard cap are as follows:

The access service is provided on a metered basis. Usually this means that the customer purchases a limited volume of traffic (typically per month) but it could also mean that the customer has purchased access for a limited amount of time.
After the customer exceeds this limit — referred to as the “hard cap” — their Internet access service is terminated. To regain access, the customer must purchase additional services from the ISP. Note that some providers may allow access to a limited number of sites after the hard cap has been reached.
Traffic-shaping may be implemented on a capped service. The details of the services and/or protocols which are prioritised or limited must be clearly disclosed up front.
4.5. Mixed services

Some ISPs offer services which are a mixture of the above four. For example, an ISP might provide a service which is “uncapped” during the day but becomes “unrestricted, uncapped” at night. In these cases, ISPs should clearly specify the time period that each type of service applies.

comments?
 
comments?

The service may still be linked to a specific speed (e.g. a 512 kbps, uncapped service, or a 4 Mbps download/1 Mbps upload uncapped service).

I believe that is incorrect. If there is throttling involved, then the throttled speed is uncapped, and the "full speed" is limited to x number of GB (whatever the AUP states).

For example, let's say a service is advertised as:
4Mbps uncapped
but somewhere in the AUP fine print it says that the service is throttled to 64kbps once you exceed 60GB.

Then calling it 4Mbps uncapped is incorrect (and very misleading. Dishonest, in fact), because the user does not get uncapped access at 4Mbps, the user gets uncapped access at 64kbps, and 60GB @ 4Mbps.
The honest and clear presentation of this product would be:

60GB @ 4Mbps + uncapped 64kbps

There is no room for confusion when stated like that.
What the service providers are doing is taking the speed of the first part of the product (4Mbps) and claiming it applies to the GB limitation of the second part of the product (in this case, no limitation, i.e.: uncapped).

That is as incorrect as doing it vice versa (stating the product as 60GB @ 64kbps).

The next time someone lodges a complaint, that is what they should argue.
 
thank you, constructive and useful
the ISPA doc is an attempt to get everyone on the same page (there is no mechanism to force people to use these terms in the manner recommended) and it is an underlying principle that you have to be explicit in your marketing material as to what is being provided
 
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