What is a fair annual raise?

What do you think is a fair annual raise?

  • Matching inflation

    Votes: 128 38.0%

  • less than 10%

    Votes: 8 2.4%

  • 10%

    Votes: 44 13.1%

  • More than 10%

    Votes: 31 9.2%

  • Purely performance based

    Votes: 102 30.3%

  • Other

    Votes: 24 7.1%
  • Total voters
    337
*SynergyX* said:
3% because that all the company can afford...we all know the spiel
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I own a company, and I would be too embarassed and ashamed to give a staff member a 3% increase if they're performing anything short of nothing. It would like i'm slapping them in the face.
I understand of course companies have financial difficulty but I would then either take the knock myself, or manage expectations with a 3-4 month delay in increases until cashflow would allow a proper increase.
 
Corelli said:
oh, I saved them R100 million last year, and got a 3% increase annually with a letter of thanks for all the great work. Sadly for them I have started encrypting all data and connections I work with, and once I have moved it onto our new server, which I only have access too. I will put on an encryption timer, and quit.
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Whats an encryption timer ?
 
Corelli said:
oh, I saved them R100 million last year, and got a 3% increase annually with a letter of thanks for all the great work. Sadly for them I have started encrypting all data and connections I work with, and once I have moved it onto our new server, which I only have access too. I will put on an encryption timer, and quit.
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Sounds a bit like sabotage to me. You got paid a salary to do what you did, now you want to sabotage them for not paying you more than what you worked and contracted for? You are looking at jail time at this rate.
 
3WA said:
I guess companies have different policies. We usually get inflation or more, but it’s the same percentage increase for everyone across the board. So we get richer year on year, but it would be wildly inaccurate to say that everyone is creating more value each year.
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There's nothing worse than the "everyone gets the same" approach to have the good guys stagnate and the bad apples do even less.
 
Corelli said:
oh, I saved them R100 million last year, and got a 3% increase annually with a letter of thanks for all the great work. Sadly for them I have started encrypting all data and connections I work with, and once I have moved it onto our new server, which I only have access too. I will put on an encryption timer, and quit.
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Why don't you just job hop?

If you find yourself in such a situation where you work for a company, but you have to work against it in order for them to notice you, then you are heading down the road to depression avenue, or you're probably there already...

Just job hop.
 
surface said:
I am not a top achiever like you and I say it with complete sincerity and no sarcasm.
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You don't need to be a top achiever but at least just be better than average and show some effort and general improvement.

But if you are just doing the bare minimum to get by, then you really should be asking yourself why you expect more than a bare minimum increase.

By and large it's been my experience that those who moan the loudest about increases are the very same who lift as little of a finger as possible and often make comments like "not my job" or "you'd need to pay me more" etc when the most mundane of actions are requested from them.

Show a little initiative or effort in self improvement and you get rewarded accordingly in good companies.

Another thing I see very often is that people have no idea how to present themselves. They'll complain endlessly about all the many things they did in the last year and why they should get an increase accordingly and when you ask them does their boss know about this then they look at you blankly like it's some crazy question and then when you dig deeper you figure out that they just expected them to magically be aware of all these things as if they dedicated all their time to watching this one employees outputs.

People don't even bring a summary to a performance review, never mind actual evidence and then they wonder why nothing happens.

You are as responsible for getting a raise as your boss is for giving you one.
 
Minimum of inflation matched plus a good raise for performance.
 
Corelli said:
oh, I saved them R100 million last year, and got a 3% increase annually with a letter of thanks for all the great work. Sadly for them I have started encrypting all data and connections I work with, and once I have moved it onto our new server, which I only have access too. I will put on an encryption timer, and quit.
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And... You just admitted that in a public thread :ROFL: You must enjoy getting taken to the cleaners TWICE - once with the increase and another for loss of business / revenue etc etc etc.
 
SauRoNZA said:
There's nothing worse than the "everyone gets the same" approach to have the good guys stagnate and the bad apples do even less.
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Yeah, that's one side-effect. In general my workplace is rather progressive and tolerates a lot from employees. It's nice for most people, but we have a few who abuse. If I ever take over, I'm gonna brutalise these soft bitches.
 
SauRoNZA said:
You don't need to be a top achiever but at least just be better than average and show some effort and general improvement.

But if you are just doing the bare minimum to get by, then you really should be asking yourself why you expect more than a bare minimum increase.

By and large it's been my experience that those who moan the loudest about increases are the very same who lift as little of a finger as possible and often make comments like "not my job" or "you'd need to pay me more" etc when the most mundane of actions are requested from them.

Show a little initiative or effort in self improvement and you get rewarded accordingly in good companies.

Another thing I see very often is that people have no idea how to present themselves. They'll complain endlessly about all the many things they did in the last year and why they should get an increase accordingly and when you ask them does their boss know about this then they look at you blankly like it's some crazy question and then when you dig deeper you figure out that they just expected them to magically be aware of all these things as if they dedicated all their time to watching this one employees outputs.

People don't even bring a summary to a performance review, never mind actual evidence and then they wonder why nothing happens.

You are as responsible for getting a raise as your boss is for giving you one.
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Thanks but one of my comments was "Pay is good though for what I do". Absolutely happy about it and I don't remember having moaned about it tbh.
 
surface said:
Thanks but one of my comments was "Pay is good though for what I do". Absolutely happy about it and I don't remember having moaned about it tbh.
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But you would still deserve a raise because experience is gold. It's only natural that you take care of the company's work and the company takes care of you.
 
Botha22 said:
I think civil servants have not had an increase for the last 3/4 years (except the guys in cabinet)
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Not true. Civil servants got an increase as per the contract they negotiated in 2019 which was spread over 3 years. Government bailed on the last year though. Which is why they are very upset. Government is giving a cash allowance atm but they paying them from GEPF meaning the employees are paying themselves which is making them even more upset

Though civil servants get what is called EPMDS which is like a performance rating and of you pass you get 1% p.a.

They all get grade progressions AFAIK
 
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