Jola
Honorary Master
I disagree - but we will see what happens in the CC.
Of course, what is of interest is the other parties (relatives of Apartheid victims) who have joined in the case against McBride, for other reasons, but so be it.
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What is it with McBride?
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I disagree - but we will see what happens in the CC.
Of course, what is of interest is the other parties (relatives of Apartheid victims) who have joined in the case against McBride, for other reasons, but so be it.
Jola
Honorary Master
This is exactly what the Citizen is saying ??? So do you now agree with them ?
Jola,
You are seriously missing the point here.
FACT, the SCA made a ruling and it stands!
Get rid of the emotion and maybe you will see the process going on here.
Jola
Honorary Master
The ruling being that a fact is not a fact. IMHO this is a serious judicial problem, and undermines the whole legal system.
blunomore
Honorary Master
YOU SAID that according to the Citizen one's criminal record cannot be expunged.
I say it can. It is the effect of a pardon.
Whether she agrees with the Citizen is IRRELEVANT. The Citizen is not the law!
Fsck, you are going to drive me to drink.
Blu, all yours...
blunomore
Honorary Master
Jola
Honorary Master
The Citizen is saying that the FACTS of the matter cannot be changed, they exist for all time - even if the record is expunged.
Changing a piece of paper does not change history, are you guys unable to understand this ?
blunomore
Honorary Master
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
Was a surprise attack by the Japanese Navy against primarily military targets in an attempt to disable the US Pacific fleet.
Was a surprise attack by a civilian against only civilian targets in an attempt to kill and maim.
Jola
Honorary Master
Yes, but it didn't happen :wtf: :erm:
Jola
Honorary Master
Anyway, I think that you guys get my point.
And I do think that it undermines the SA Judicial and Legal system.
Maybe the CC will come on a white horse to the rescue.
And I do think that it undermines the SA Judicial and Legal system.
Maybe the CC will come on a white horse to the rescue.
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
What do you mean it didn't happen? Am I missing something here?
http://home.intekom.com/southafricanhistoryonline/pages/chronology/thisday/1986-06-14.htm
Jola
Honorary Master
My point exactly !
I will buy the three of you drinks in a suitable Joburg pub when the CC rescues the SA Judicial system !
Fazda
Honorary Master
Probably none of us Alan, the fact that we usually disagree with your right wing claptrap does NOT meant that we vote ANC
Who is denying the facts ? Not me
For the umpteenth time: To pardon someone does not mean the crime was not committed. It means the person gets pardoned for doing so.
The Citizen claimed in an editorial that McBride, as a convicted criminal and murderer was therefore unfir to hold position in public office.
Seeing as McBride was pardonned for his crimes, he is not a convicted criminal or murderer by the normal definition of 'criminal' or 'murderer'. So The Citizen was being thrifty with the facts. If they wanted to continue arguing the point, they should have mentioned the controversial manner in which McBride gained amnesty for his deeds or detailed the other numerous indiscretions McBride has been involved in since being pardonned.
http://www.justice.gov.za/sca/judgments/sca_2010/sca10-005ms.pdf
McBride is a shady enough character even without bringing up his actions as a freedom fighter/terrorist. The Citizen should pick its battles more wisely in future.
Fazda
Honorary Master
No it'as just another one of Alan's fantasies that if you disagree with him, or "appear" to be more liberal minded than he can stomach, you must be ANC...
