what is the big advantage with IOS over Android?

[Binary_Bark]

Rather This

No man not this thread...

Buy a device that works for *your* needs...

All these type of threads turn into a dick (Johnson) measuring contest...

 

[bwana]

so my initial thoughts are very correct then, android is the better system.

For you maybe it is but, while I don't doubt there are others like you, you really shouldn't paint everyone with the same brush. Everyone had varying wants, needs, and expectations so it's a matter of choosing the ecosystem that best suits them individually.

 

[Jet-Fighter7700]

For you maybe it is but, while I don't doubt there are others like you, you really shouldn't paint everyone with the same brush. Everyone had varying wants, needs, and expectations so it's a matter of choosing the ecosystem that best suits them individually.

fair enough, I do agree, if your a 90 year old pensioner, who wants to see their grandkids,
then apple is obviously better, as its easier to learn and wont break that much?

but if you not scared of options and settings, and fiddling, like most IT people are,
then android is the better choice?

 

[Rickster]

iOS is a very basic OS but somehow it sometimes seems to rework simple tasks and make things complicated.

Android isnt for the kids, Android is complex but when it comes to everyday tasks it seems to feel so simple.



Bonus: iOS only now in late 2016 brought out night mode? You have to be kidding me, Apple/iOS talk about "innovative" but half their claims have been on Android yonks ago.

 

[Jet-Fighter7700]

iOS is a very basic OS but somehow it sometimes seems to rework simple tasks and make things complicated.

Android isnt for the kids, Android is complex but when it comes to everyday tasks it seems to feel so simple.



Bonus: iOS only now in late 2016 brought out night mode? You have to be kidding me, Apple/iOS talk about "innovative" but half their claim have been on Android yonks ago.

agreed, android seems simple, until you try to do something more complex,
IOS seems to make everything simple a lot more complex than it needs to be,

I do think they are aimed at different people though, maybe this is why I cant understand why you would buy this,
I mean if you got money to burn, and your not technically savvy enough, you buy a apple, as its simpler to use....

but most of us plebs stick with what gives us options, and is cheaper.

well at least my initial feelings are remaining intact.....

 

[bwana]

fair enough, I do agree, if your a 90 year old pensioner, who wants to see their grandkids,
then apple is obviously better, as its easier to learn and wont break that much?

Stereotyping for the sake of stereotyping?

but if you not scared of options and settings, and fiddling, like most IT people are,
then android is the better choice?

My phone and laptop are the tools I need to pay the bills, as much as my cameras are, and when they play nice it makes my life easier. Reliability is what's important to me and tbh I've reached that stage in my life where I've got enough going on that endless fiddling and tweaking is superfluous. Life is good, I'm not looking for any more distractions.

 

[Kloofvreter]

This pretty much.



That G3 is a 2014 flagship though.

And mine still works to this day with zero issues. Oh wait, I had to replace the battery.

 

[Fro]

I don't see how Android is more complicated to use. Most people don't have to go into the settings anyway. With the phones breaking: just because you received a bad Android doesn't mean all models of that phone behave like that. I've read where iPhones did the weirdest ****. At least use a new OS for more than a week before you say it's more complicated than another one.

 

[mattrudlles]

My experience:

Updates to the OS - you will actually get those.

iOS will work every time; android is a gamble depending on the device. My nvidia shield tablet is great however: stock android though.

I find that the apps are of a better quality, and you have more options.

 

[NeonNinja]

From my experience a least iOS is more stable than Android. (Note 4 crashes and reboots every few days randomly, don't think that ever happened once on my ip5)

I've never had random reboots on all my numerous Android devices.

 

[Jola]

My experience:

Updates to the OS - you will actually get those.

iOS will work every time; android is a gamble depending on the device. My nvidia shield tablet is great however: stock android though.

I find that the apps are of a better quality, and you have more options.

That is not correct, I have older iOS devices, and they don't get updated, they are stuck on older versions of iOS.

And there have been iOS bugs as well.

As for the Apps, can't say that I have had problems with the Android Apps that I use.

 

[BigAl-sa]

From my experience a least iOS is more stable than Android. (Note 4 crashes and reboots every few days randomly, don't think that ever happened once on my ip5)

1. Did you try returning the Android device?
2. Did you sideload apps onto the Android device mentioned?

I have never had a random reboot on any of my Android devices. This should match your stats

 

[Hamster]

1. Did you try returning the Android device?
2. Did you sideload apps onto the Android device mentioned?

I have never had a random reboot on any of my Android devices. This should match your stats

I have never owned a phone (Android, WP) or tablet (Android, iOS) or laptop that didn't have at least one random restart.

 

[phoneJunky]

I got tired of just one or two updates for my phone on Android (Samsung), and didn't want to go through the hassle of installing CM nightlies two months after the Nexus already got updated.

That is my main reason.

There are things in android I miss - but even with the android updates it removed some of those things like controlling the GPS/3G enable disable from an app like tasker. I didn't want to root my app anymore as the banking apps didn't work after that anymore - but to do the things I wanted I couldn't use stock android.

I have received more official updates on my one iPhone than I received with my previous 5 Galaxys.

Then the smaller things were the shutter lag on the camera - even when we got the zero shutter lag it still wasn't as quick. All the Galaxy S's I owned outspecced the apple but was significantly slower when doing day to day things compared to its equivalent iPhone of the time.

I know these are Samsung specific, but they were the best represented android phone back then. I played with the P8 and P9 recently and they looked decent.

The things I dislike from the Apple ecosystem were fixed or improved to a level that I could tolerate.

And I think I also just wanted to try something different - but I think I will stick with iOS for a while still.

 

[Jahguy]

..why would you buy one in the first place?
what do people see in it? Is it a Brand loyalty thing that people see in it?

For me - not a brand loyalty thing, though I believe majority of the so called "sheeple" do.

My reason:

"it just works"

I have to admit, this Ipad 2 is stylish and works quite fast, but so many restrictions on it compared to andriod,

Define restrictions?

I really struggle to see why does anybody buy this, when the alternative is so much easier/cheaper and better.

Define better?

what is the real reason people buy it? It it due to them not being really interested in phones and want something that works immediately.
or is it a brand loyalty kind of thing? or is there a real reason that one has to dig to understand?
...
I mean it costs so much for this device, its restricted so much, and doesn't (to my mind) do anything better than the equivalent android.
Please explain to this IOS newbie why do you pick one over a android?

Again with restrictions...

So I ask, define better, define restrictions, I can ssh into my phone and run a few net tools or even open up my terminal app and run it straight off the bat with a bluetooth keyboard and start snooping/testing as much as the next android phone can, to mention one.

Some of the generic arguments I've received:

- I can't send songs over whatsapp?
I don't need to.

- I can't "Theme" the crap out of my phone to make it look sooo unique?
I don't use my phone to sit around and look at my apps / menu screens all day, I actually use the apps.
Once I'm in the app, chances are the android equivalent looks identical...

Thing is this argument will go on forever,
we all know the specs don't matter as Apple are the true winners of "Do more with less".

Not a fanboi of either, for everything else there's JB.

*Risky first post*

 

[Tacet]

I currently use an iPad2 and an iPhone6 as personal devices. My work phone is an LG G3. I didn't like the stock firmware on the G3, so its running CM.

My previous personal phone was a Lumia 920 which I really liked. When its screen broke (about 3 years after I got it), I would have liked another MS, but Telkom had no MS phones at that time (I didn't want to move from SP). I already had an Android device (the G3 is ok, but not great), so I wasn't to keen on getting another Android.

Couple of points about my experience:
1. At the time, my contract worked out cheaper with the iPhone6 than with the flagship Samsung.
2. The iPhone does everything that I want it to, and it does it well. There's nothing that I do on the G3 that I can't do on the iPhone.
3. I REALLY miss Nokia's Glance feature.
4. The iPhone is pretty much rock solid stable. So was the Nokia before I started fooling around with MS's Developer Previews. The G3 was never (even before CM) as stable as the iPhone, but the G3 isn't exactly in the same league as the iPhone or the Samsung flagships.
5. Yes, the build quality of the iPhone is great. However, the screen cracked about a week after I got the phone. I wasn't used to the more slippery aluminium of the iPhone, and aluminium doesn't make for a great shock absorber. The Nokia handled drops much better. The G3 also handles drops quite well. I'm back to handling my phone with overexaggerated care.
6. iTunes suck, but I knew that before I got the phone. Won't complain about that now. However, Apple integrated better with Windows this time round, so you can get your photos without iTunes.
7. I would have liked proper NFC capabilities on the iPhone, but I don't think that its likely that we'll see it soon.

When all is said and done, the iPhone is just another phone. In some ways it is better than Android, and in other ways Android is better. And occasionally I find myself missing a MS feature than neither my G3 nor my iPhone has. So choose a phone, enjoy it and write a poem about it, but don't crucify people for choosing another phone or OS than you did.

 

[Tacet]

Define restrictions?

With a non-jailbroken phone there are restrictions to iOS that are not there in Android. Take NFC: with Android you can switch your Wifi on/off, or set a tag up to start your maps app and to route you to a certain destination. Apple doesn't allow 3rd party apps access to hardware, so it is more restricted.

Another example: Wifi. Android has numerous Wifi scanner apps that will show you all the networks in the vincinity and what their signal strengths are. It makes it very easy to search for Wifi interference or for a less noisy channel. Apple does not have similar because developers doesn't have access to the chipset.

 

[Jet-Fighter7700]

With a non-jailbroken phone there are restrictions to iOS that are not there in Android. Take NFC: with Android you can switch your Wifi on/off, or set a tag up to start your maps app and to route you to a certain destination. Apple doesn't allow 3rd party apps access to hardware, so it is more restricted.

Another example: Wifi. Android has numerous Wifi scanner apps that will show you all the networks in the vincinity and what their signal strengths are. It makes it very easy to search for Wifi interference or for a less noisy channel. Apple does not have similar because developers doesn't have access to the chipset.

this ,

as well as many other features that not implimented on IOS,
things like you have to use itunes for your music, no way to just copy it onto a folder and play it,
does have its advantages, (not for me though)

I mean I loaded a app, air transfer (looked for airdroid) and I managed to copy music, but VLC wont pick it up,
its just not set up for somebody used to androids simplicity, that things go where you expect them to go,
where is the folders where things are stored?

I mean I tried to transfer with a cable, without itunes, just shows up as a drive, but nothing inside it,
I mean android gives you options, what do you want to do here? charge,copy or play files,

nothing of the sort with this IOS, Its meant for people that dont like to tinker, or really explore what is really possible.

Im sure for some it works just fine,

I really begin to not understand its whole point, why buy it? besides reasons of aesthetics or simplicity,
I get I'm generalizing heavily here, But I fail to see the whole point of these devices,

 

[Jet-Fighter7700]

and another thing I just noticed,

only now is there a news app, like android has had for years,
only with the latest update does apple implement features that android has had for years....

again, whats the point?

 

[bwana]

and another thing I just noticed,

only now is there a news app, like android has had for years,
only with the latest update does apple implement features that android has had for years....

again, whats the point?

No, they've had a news app for a while now…

Bonus: iOS only now in late 2016 brought out night mode? You have to be kidding me, Apple/iOS talk about "innovative" but half their claims have been on Android yonks ago.

Nope, also been out a while…