what is the big advantage with IOS over Android?

eg2505 said:
again, whats the point?
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The point is that many of us don't tinker, and we don't "explore what is really possible". I want a phone that is comfortable to use, that can handle voice calls, SMS, WhatsApp, email and a browser. It must be able to take pictures, and it must be able to stream Youtube and play it over my Bluetooth speakers. It must support my bank's app, and occasionally I want to use it as a torch. It must have a GPS and mapping, and it must have an alarm clock.

I don't require much more from my phone. I don't use a news app, and I don't store music locally on my phone. I don't care about customizing it.

Honestly, I don't tinker with my kettle, toaster, car, Bluetooth speakers, PC... Why should I then make "tinkering" a key requirement when choosing a phone?
 
Tacet said:
I currently use an iPad2 and an iPhone6 as personal devices. My work phone is an LG G3. I didn't like the stock firmware on the G3, so its running CM.

My previous personal phone was a Lumia 920 which I really liked. When its screen broke (about 3 years after I got it), I would have liked another MS, but Telkom had no MS phones at that time (I didn't want to move from SP). I already had an Android device (the G3 is ok, but not great), so I wasn't to keen on getting another Android.

Couple of points about my experience:
1. At the time, my contract worked out cheaper with the iPhone6 than with the flagship Samsung.
2. The iPhone does everything that I want it to, and it does it well. There's nothing that I do on the G3 that I can't do on the iPhone.
3. I REALLY miss Nokia's Glance feature.
4. The iPhone is pretty much rock solid stable. So was the Nokia before I started fooling around with MS's Developer Previews. The G3 was never (even before CM) as stable as the iPhone, but the G3 isn't exactly in the same league as the iPhone or the Samsung flagships.
5. Yes, the build quality of the iPhone is great. However, the screen cracked about a week after I got the phone. I wasn't used to the more slippery aluminium of the iPhone, and aluminium doesn't make for a great shock absorber. The Nokia handled drops much better. The G3 also handles drops quite well. I'm back to handling my phone with overexaggerated care.
6. iTunes suck, but I knew that before I got the phone. Won't complain about that now. However, Apple integrated better with Windows this time round, so you can get your photos without iTunes.
7. I would have liked proper NFC capabilities on the iPhone, but I don't think that its likely that we'll see it soon.

When all is said and done, the iPhone is just another phone. In some ways it is better than Android, and in other ways Android is better. And occasionally I find myself missing a MS feature than neither my G3 nor my iPhone has. So choose a phone, enjoy it and write a poem about it, but don't crucify people for choosing another phone or OS than you did.
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1. Nice, is it still so?
2. Transport a word doc from your laptop to your device using a cable. Transfer an app to your friend via Bluetooth, you both don't have enough data to download another app.
3. What's this point doing in an android vs iOS argument?
4. G3 is half a year older and why would it not be in the same league?
5. You're basing the build quality on you dropping things? Did they drop on the same surface/angle/height?
6. What about everything else, e.g. Music, documents you're working on, etc.
7. Probably not. A lot of android devices also don't have it.

What feature does Windows Phone have that both the others don't?
 
bwana said:
Rickster said:
Bonus: iOS only now in late 2016 brought out night mode? You have to be kidding me, Apple/iOS talk about "innovative" but half their claims have been on Android yonks ago.
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Nope, also been out a while…
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Yeah there was a app Apple killed and then they integrated it directly into iOS. What a great company.
 
backstreetboy said:
Yeah there was a app Apple killed and then they integrated it directly into iOS. What a great company.
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f.lux? That app wasn't ever available on the AppStore. You either had to JB your phone or side-load it via X-Code iirc?
 
Because every time I touch an Android device (or anything else for that matter) it seems utterly cumbersome and illogical in design.

I'm not going to repeat myself here again because I can make very very long lists about little things that just kill the entire experience for me and have me going back to Apple happily.

Closest thing to iOS was Windows Phone for all the same "locked down" reasons in reality.

And yes Hamster's joke about the ecosystem is exactly it. I used to run a Macbook Pro + iPad + iPhone and it was beautiful.

Then I changed jobs and just switching to a Windows laptop broke my entire life. I then toyed with a Lumia for a few months and that made it even worse because as much as I dislike Android I use Google Services extensively and there are none on Windows Phone.

When I recently won that Android tablet I couldn't find one reason that I would want to keep using it over my iPad...but I could find many reasons why NOT and that has largely got to do with the entire ecosystem.


That being said I'm a pretty much ALL IN guys with Apple stuff and that's when it really shines. If you have only one singular Apple device then it's not as apparent.

The interplay between my Apple TV, iPad and iPhone really is a case of "it just works". At the same time it means nothing else works with it.
 
More or less like visiting a museum or park.

If you like guided tours, go apple, if you prefer to check things out for yourself, Android.
 
AstroTurf said:
More or less like visiting a museum or park.

If you like guided tours, go apple, if you prefer to check things out for yourself, Android.
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You aren't wrong there, my biggest frustrations with Android are related to the amount of questions and manual operations it requires with things like permissions, updates and what not.

I just despise when Apple people get labelled as sheep for CHOOSING to go Apple over Android (or anything else).

I've tried them all...I just don't like the rest. It's that simple.
 
SauRoNZA said:
You aren't wrong there, my biggest frustrations with Android are related to the amount of questions and manual operations it requires with things like permissions, updates and what not.

I just despise when Apple people get labelled as sheep for CHOOSING to go Apple over Android (or anything else).

I've tried them all...I just don't like the rest. It's that simple.
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It updates automatically unless there is a change in permissions...
I'd rather know what permissions the app wants etc. and if I want to give it.

iOS I am annoyed at the fact that you can't log in with 2/3 accounts at the same time, this makes updating apps a hassle.
 
It is very difficult to do a straight up comparison between iOS (3 phones per iteration with the plus and SE now) and Android (with thousands of different phones) and each manufacturer doing their own thing with the base Android.

It will always come down to:
A) Affordability
B) Public image
C) Usability

and in that order.

Same reason people buy cars/watches/jewellery etc which cost milliions/hundreds of thousands - because they can, and it gives them satisfaction.
 
AirWolf said:
It is very difficult to do a straight up comparison between iOS (3 phones per iteration with the plus and SE now) and Android (with thousands of different phones) and each manufacturer doing their own thing with the base Android.

It will always come down to:
A) Affordability
B) Public image
C) Usability

and in that order.

Same reason people buy cars/watches/jewellery etc which cost milliions/hundreds of thousands - because they can, and it gives them satisfaction.
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Sorry dude, public image has no bearing whatsoever and affordability has very little when we can pick up many different flagships on 2 year contracts at roughly the same price.

And usability is the same with any phone after a while when you get used to it.

Compatibility is the one you missed and largely why I use an iPhone at the moment.
 
Spizz said:
Sorry dude, public image has no bearing whatsoever and affordability has very little when we can pick up many different flagships on 2 year contracts at roughly the same price.
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Yeah, I don't get why people always say iPhones are expensive. Just because you got a cheap Samsung doesn't mean Samsung doesn't make expensive phones. Top of the range Samsungs and Sonys cost just as much as iPhones.
 
Johnatan56 said:
It updates automatically unless there is a change in permissions...
I'd rather know what permissions the app wants etc. and if I want to give it.

iOS I am annoyed at the fact that you can't log in with 2/3 accounts at the same time, this makes updating apps a hassle.
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Yeah the problem is that it doesn't automatically update if there is some permission requirement. Permissions wouldn't be an issue in the first place if it was sandboxed like iOS...so that just annoys me endlessly.

As for iOS updates all apps available on the same store should update without needing to sign in. The bottleneck really are apps say on the US store only but not the SA store but you are signed in with the SA store. This does make some sense if you think about it.
 
AirWolf said:
It is very difficult to do a straight up comparison between iOS (3 phones per iteration with the plus and SE now) and Android (with thousands of different phones) and each manufacturer doing their own thing with the base Android.

It will always come down to:
A) Affordability
B) Public image
C) Usability

and in that order.

Same reason people buy cars/watches/jewellery etc which cost milliions/hundreds of thousands - because they can, and it gives them satisfaction.
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Yeah the hundreds of thousands of devices running the same thing is the biggest part of the problem because consistency is lost.


Like this Lenovo tablet the "scrubber" for video is stupidly small and virtually unusable on a 7-inch device...whereas on my iPhone 5S at a quarter of the size it's very easy to operate and there's no obvious difference over my iPad for instance.

It could be because the aspect ratio is stupidly wide, whereas iOS used their brain with 4:3 or it could simply be the base size that isn't catered for.

Either way it's a massive usability issue and can't be fixed short of replacing the device.
 
Spizz said:
Sorry dude, public image has no bearing whatsoever and affordability has very little when we can pick up many different flagships on 2 year contracts at roughly the same price.

And usability is the same with any phone after a while when you get used to it.

Compatibility is the one you missed and largely why I use an iPhone at the moment.
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See that's my thing though.

Overall Usability is off the charts on iOS for me because I don't run into silly little GUI or design issues the whole time.

Sure if you spend enough time with it some of them could go away...but then you jump between an iOS and Android device and you want to kill yourself.

So I just stick to the one that makes my life easier.
 
SauRoNZA said:
See that's my thing though.

Overall Usability is off the charts on iOS for me because I don't run into silly little GUI or design issues the whole time.

Sure if you spend enough time with it some of them could go away...but then you jump between an iOS and Android device and you want to kill yourself.

So I just stick to the one that makes my life easier.
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Well that's why I'm using iOS also and have been for over a year now.

I used to enjoy Android specifically for the tinkering around, but eventually couldn't be bothered with working out why I was losing 10% over night or why the thing had endless wake locks. I confess that I'm a bit of a battery freak and spend my life forever checking what and why I'm losing % over the course of a day. With iOS, I just don't have that inclination because it's not set up for tinkering.

Oh, and I should mention iMessage. That's a large part of the reason I stick with iOS.
 
Spizz said:
Sorry dude, public image has no bearing whatsoever and affordability has very little when we can pick up many different flagships on 2 year contracts at roughly the same price.

And usability is the same with any phone after a while when you get used to it.

Compatibility is the one you missed and largely why I use an iPhone at the moment.
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Compatibility is secondary - if you have multiple iOS devices, those still come up against affordability first.
Someone earning 5k a month is not going to have an iPad, Macbook and an iPhone.

People do use expensive flagships (even when it may break the bank) to keep up with the Joness'.
 
AirWolf said:
Compatibility is secondary - if you have multiple iOS devices, those still come up against affordability first.
Someone earning 5k a month is not going to have an iPad, Macbook and an iPhone.

People do use expensive flagships (even when it may break the bank) to keep up with the Joness'.
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Fair enough. But even then, I'd imagine these kind of people are as likely to buy a S7edge as they are an iPhone.
 
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