What matric marks really mean

[lsuacner]

Yes, you need 47 points (well as a white person anyway). And you need at least an A for Maths. Now UCT changed their system this year so to get 8 points, you need to get 90%, and not 80% as in previous years. (80-89 = 7).

So..taking that into account...

A (7*2) - 14 points [Maths is doubled]
A - 7
A 7
A 7

=35. And two Bs (which are 6 points) = 12

35 +12 = 47.

I graduated school in 2003. I had 52% for HG maths. I had 62% for accounting HG. I passed Honors CIMA and never failed a single subject, I also did IT and passed the programming very well. I don't think maths is required to do Accounting, maybe programming. PUK is a better varsity, better student life which is what it is all about. Once your 3 yrs has passed you realise working for the next 40 odd years won't ever be as good as varsity.

 

[Morgoth]

I don't get why metric marks are so important ok sure you have to pass and all but if you don't get in for most of the courses you have to write a exemption exam, and it isn't that hard. I think children burn themselves out getting 6 distinctions and once some of them get to varsity they have to face the fact that they wont get it anymore as easily.

 

[lsuacner]

You assume, the average IQ of a chinese and a South African to be the same. I have answered this already a week ago and got banned. I was only pointing out the obvious, forgot though, this is a South African forum. Of course the average South African has a 10% bigger brain and a 20% higher IQ. Now let's see if this will get me banned for another 7 days too. I am sort of getting tired of switching accounts. Perhaps I should join a more open mined/tolerant forum.

Who can argue against the facts, if everyone is equal, we would all be equal. Luckily each race has a few very smart people which can carry the rest.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

I don't get why metric marks are so important ok sure you have to pass and all but if you don't get in for most of the courses you have to write a exemption exam, and it isn't that hard. I think children burn themselves out getting 6 distinctions and once some of them get to varsity they have to face the fact that they wont get it anymore as easily.

Nope. While entrance might help you to obtain early acceptance, you still need the minimum amount of points for that degree. 6As isn't really that bad - Top 10 people at UCT get R25 000 bursaries which is pretty sweet.

 

[Morgoth]

only for the first year though, some student loans work in a pretty similar way, the point i am trying to make is I slacked a bit off in matric did ok in subjects like maths / science where studying isn't really required, managed to get a 78 there but some marks forced me to write the entrance exam at Tuks, it is kinda a joke, the language was a bit complicated but nothing to hard. Now i got exemption what difference is there in the 2nd year at University between me and the guy who worked his ass off for 6 distinctions? I got better memories from partying?>

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

only for the first year though, some student loans work in a pretty similar way, the point i am trying to make is I slacked a bit off in matric did ok in subjects like maths / science where studying isn't really required, managed to get a 78 there but some marks forced me to write the entrance exam at Tuks, it is kinda a joke, the language was a bit complicated but nothing to hard. Now i got exemption what difference is there in the 2nd year at University between me and the guy who worked his ass off for 6 distinctions? I got better memories from partying?>

While it is of course true that by 2nd year, the difference is wiped away, I think you are taking a simplistic view. For the guy who got 6 distinctions, it shows he worked hard (mostly - if you are a Maths boff, no need to really try at Matric Maths) and was rewarded for his/her efforts. This will put him in good standing for university where he'll have to work far harder to get good marks. If you slack off in matric, you're unlikely (although by no means impossible) to work hard at university. Of course there are exceptions to the rule, but I'll bet my life on it that people who get 5 or 6As in matric have a higher pass rate at university than people who get 1 or 2As.

 

[Morgoth]

its a 50:50 I would say, some people get burned out if they studies to hard at a wrong part others have the determination to do better at something they actually enjoy doing, metric marks at the end of the day only gives you a bursary of some sort,
That is nothing compared to all the bull**** schools have been feeding us since grade 11 about the importance of our marks >_<

 

[Liberalist]

Hi Dominic,

Did they not write the old Curriculum in 2004?

From what I can gather under the new curriculum a mark over 50% is considered a Matric Exemption Mark?
My son will be writing Matric next year and he intends to study Law in 2010 and for that they require a minimum average mark of 60% for entrance.

80%. Wow that is quite a steep requirement!

Regards,
BTTB.

Where is he looking to study Law?

 

[BTTB]

Where is he looking to study Law?

Hello Liberalist,

Stellenbosch.

Regards,
BTTB.

 

[PeterCH]

I got better memories from partying?>

Social interaction creates memories, of course it depends if they were better than if you were in your dorm room cramming instead of partying with the girls at the local club or pub.

 

[Liberalist]

Hello Liberalist,

Stellenbosch.

Regards,
BTTB.

Good day to you

Which program is he looking to do? I recently graduated with my LLB from UCT. The entrance requirements are very steep. I know that about 4 years ago the entrance requirement to do the 4yr LLB was at least 80% for matric.

 

[Liberalist]

Personally, I think one has to be smoking rocks to study law, hehe

 

[BTTB]

BA(LAW) or alternatively LLB.

According to Stellenbosch Website, see links above, the minimum requirement is a 60% aggregate overall including your first language.

We have a position for him in a Law Firm, if that is worth anything?
A Law Graduate from Stellenbosch.

Personally, I think one has to be smoking rocks to study law, hehe

My son smokes Marlboro.
He asked to do this course might I add.

 

[Liberalist]

The problem is that in most cases the minimum requirement is never sufficient for admission. In most cases there is an enormous surplus of people applying to enter into a particular program and hence the universities will simply take the top 200 or so applicants (if those applicants have aggregates of 85% then so be it). Race is also taken into account. The strage thing is that of all the blacks in my final year class only one was South African.

Good luck to him though. If he does not get in to the 4year LLB then he should do the BA LLB route. I dont know what the requirement is at Stellies but at UCT if you get 63% for your first year BA then the Law faculty has to accept you.

 

[BTTB]

The problem is that in most cases the minimum requirement is never sufficient for admission. In most cases there is an enormous surplus of people applying to enter into a particular program and hence the universities will simply take the top 200 or so applicants (if those applicants have aggregates of 85% then so be it). Race is also taken into account. The strage thing is that of all the blacks in my final year class only one was South African.

Good luck to him though. If he does not get in to the 4year LLB then he should do the BA LLB route. I dont know what the requirement is at Stellies but at UCT if you get 63% for your first year BA then the Law faculty has to accept you.

Thanks.

They say that if you do the BA(LAW) then you will only have to do the last two years of the LLB. This essentially adds one year to the whole picture, excluding articles. Is it called articles like accountants?

May I ask how many people flunked out in the first year to two?

Regards,
BTTB.

 

[Liberalist]

Pleasure.

Yeah the way it works is that if you do the BA LLB then your first year will be purely BA subjects. In year two and three you will do BA subjects together with law subjects. Years four and five one does purely law subjects.

Yes it's still called articles - the term now for an article clerk is a "candidate attorney".

The final year law class is about half the size of the first year law class - so it is a sizeable chunk that don't make it. But, as i'm sure you know, it's very do-able.

I assume you are an attorney? I'm starting my articles in Feb. Just wondering how tough the admission exams are?

 

[BTTB]

Nope studied accounting.

Self Employed Businessman, 18 years now.

 

[Liberalist]

Good stuff... hope to end up like that too one day - not too sure how long I will last in the legal world

 

[BTTB]

Good stuff... hope to end up like that too one day - not too sure how long I will last in the legal world

Similarly if my son had to just acquire a BA(LAW) I would be happy.
A lot of Company Directors today running all sorts of businesses with Degrees or Diplomas in fields other than what they studied.
I am one. I know.
It gives you character and opens your mind.