WhatsApp not that private

[Kevin Lancaster]

WhatsApp not that private

The Electronic Frontier Foundation’s latest report on data collection shows that WhatsApp might not have its users’ privacy interests at heart.

 

[LCBXX]

Why is this surprising? They are part of Facebook.

 

[Ockie]

Why no Telegram?

 

[Ninja'd]

And here comes Ockie with Telegram.

 

[Chevron]

WhatsApp not that private

The Electronic Frontier Foundation’s latest report on data collection shows that WhatsApp might not have its users’ privacy interests at heart.

Well that's why we have Telegram.

 

[Ockie]

And here comes Ockie with Telegram.

 

[RichardG]

And here comes Ockie with Telegram.

Yay finally a telegram service that doesn't rely on the post office...

 

[satanboy]

Just accept anything you do or say on the internet is not private...the end.

 

[agel]

Just accept anything you do or say on the internet is not private...the end.

This!

But give it a few years and it'll be: Just accept anything you do or say is not private...the end. :erm:

 

[JStrike]

They never claimed to be private.
As far as I'm aware, of the major messaging apps, iMessage is the only one that can't be decrypted

 

[KleinBoontjie]

Apple did good.....that's ****ing surprising :wtf:

 

[JStrike]

Apple did good.....that's ****ing surprising :wtf:

Why is that surprising? They have always taken privacy very seriously

 

[Ockie]

Why is that surprising? They have always taken privacy very seriously

Unless you a celeb and your naughty shots gets leaked from iCloud?

 

[ShareMosselBay]

They never claimed to be private.
As far as I'm aware, of the major messaging apps, iMessage is the only one that can't be decrypted

What about BBM?
Aren't they the most secure?

 

[Azbubu]

What about BBM?
Aren't they the most secure?

They are...because no one uses it.

 

[ShareMosselBay]

They are...because no one uses it.

Lol, very true unfortunately.

 

[backstreetboy]

They never claimed to be private.
As far as I'm aware, of the major messaging apps, iMessage is the only one that can't be decrypted

BS -->

I just checked with an experienced Apple user. He confirmed to me, as I was expecting, that if you reset your device and then re-add it to iCloud your messages will be available to you. That means that what you describe doesn't match the reality. If messages are independently encrypted with device specific key-pair, you will lose access to the old messages as soon as you reset your device. Unless Apple has a copy of your device private key that is restored when you re-add your device to iCloud. But if Apple has your private key the whole narrative that iMessage is 'end-to-end encrypted' and better then Google Hangout becomes ridiculous.
Also I seriously doubt that Apple will store multiple encrypted copies of each message. You can send pictures and videos using iMessage. Storage cost will be way too high, even for Apple.

http://www.businessinsider.com/imessage-is-more-secure-than-google-hangouts-2015-5

 

[Swa]

Clickbait title. There's nothing in the article about people being able to access your messages.

 

[JStrike]

Unless you a celeb and your naughty shots gets leaked from iCloud?

They weren't leaked. It was social engineering. People managed to figure out their passwords

 

[JStrike]

BS --> http://www.businessinsider.com/imessage-is-more-secure-than-google-hangouts-2015-5

Apple doesn't have the key