racer
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Telkom's notification regarding the 10mbps upgrades specifically states :
"The existing 384kbit/s and 512kbit/s ADSL Resell offerings will remain unchanged at this time."
So that's the end of this thread
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When will 384 / 512 be upgraded ?
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Telkom's notification regarding the 10mbps upgrades specifically states :
"The existing 384kbit/s and 512kbit/s ADSL Resell offerings will remain unchanged at this time."
So that's the end of this thread
RPM
Can you not address the concern with Telkom or write a small piece ?
Morph am on a Wimax connection and only pay R249
And i cannot get a land-line because the f4343ing builders closed Telkoms manhole(manhole ...hahaha)
Can you not address the concern with Telkom or write a small piece ?
Morph am on a Wimax connection and only pay R249
And i cannot get a land-line because the f4343ing builders closed Telkoms manhole(manhole ...hahaha)
Anthro
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Unfortunately - Wiki being a commons media, means that its user edited - and those edits have been made by a misinformed delusional.
Telkom never officially stated that those profile changes would happen - it was conjured by a fallible mind of a 384 user
<this post was made in jest>
I feel for you 384 and 512 lowbies - 10meg ftw
</this post was made in jest>
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Grubscrew
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DjStyles
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+100
Mr.Jax
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IMO:
The majority of 384 users don't even know what 384 means and don't care. Telkom knows this (heck, probably half of their ADSL support don't understand it either)
Their core "next generation network", especially the back haul links would not be able to handle a bump in speeds.
Imagine if they were to up all 384 users to say 768, they'd need nearly double the back haul capacity and who knows how much extra on their core network.
What about ISP's that pay lots of money for IPC...they'll also have to upgrade their links etc...
Just my opinion....
The majority of 384 users don't even know what 384 means and don't care. Telkom knows this (heck, probably half of their ADSL support don't understand it either)
Their core "next generation network", especially the back haul links would not be able to handle a bump in speeds.
Imagine if they were to up all 384 users to say 768, they'd need nearly double the back haul capacity and who knows how much extra on their core network.
What about ISP's that pay lots of money for IPC...they'll also have to upgrade their links etc...
Just my opinion....
Grubscrew
Executive Member
copacetic
King of the Hippies
You mean who is standing on us?
Quite true that..
Their technicians aren't well informed so how would their clients be expected to be? Even the students who study IT at school don't completely understand it.
Considering what modern backhaul tech is capable of, what are telkom still running? You would think its 1990 by the way some people speak. If their network can't handle a 384 to 1Mbps upgrade, then i think its time they upgrade the tin cans. Honestly, if they cant handle being confronted with a pee shooter, then i think we should all pack our bags because we are all doomed.
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Colin62
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Considering the thread is discussing the line speed, what your uncapped account costs you, and even if you are on uncapped or capped, is irrelevant.
Disagree, because the issue was that one poster pointed out a 4mb line is only R90 more than a 512k, ignoring the fact that you have to still buy your bandwidth (capped or uncapped), which is generally more expensive for a higher speed line, especially if you want a reasonable amount.
Or maybe don't you live in SA.
Colin62
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I usually try not to argue with the type of people who attack the person, and not the argument, but I'll make an exception in your case, but just to point out that the cost of bandwidth need not be dependant on the speed of your line if you are using capped, so ignoring the cost of the bandwidth is perfectly valid. Many (even most) of us are still on capped accounts, and would not double our usage if our speed doubled, so could happily remain on that same account if the line speed was increased. I suspect that anyone would rather have a 1 M line than a 384 K line even if they had the same cap, as the browsing and downloading experience would be that much better. I know it's a subtle point, but that only affects it's understandability, not it's validity.
Well comparing 512Kbps and 4 meg is a red herring. The actually comparison worth making is 384Kbps and 4meg. No sane person would ever use 512 unless they had a specific reason beyond the obvious. It's extremely poor value for money.
Colin62
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stevenv
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So if you were streaming video from YouTube and didn't have to wait for it to buffer, would you only watch the one video you would have in that 15 minute buffering period if you had 4mb? Or because you didn't have to wait for it to buffer would you have watched two?
My sentiments as well
SomeoneEls
Senior Member
Please explain your logic? No one before you mentioned "uncapped" usage.
Capped solutions are generally the same price per gig no matter what line speed you use.
And typically they're not a totally cost, and are quite separable.
Thats depends entirely on the person using it. He might actually have a life and use that time to do something else!
Maybe with that extra time you can work on your issues??
stevenv
Expert Member
No need to get personal.
I simply don't agree that the comment that having a line that is 8x faster only costs you an additional R90 per month. This might be technically correct from Telkom's billing perspective but if you have that much more throughput, you cannot tell me you'll still use the same amount of data. If you spend 10 minutes browsing the web on a 512k line, you'll probably spend a lot more time waiting for pages to load than on a 4mb line and as a result visit more pages in that time and so move more data over your connection. If your data usage on a 512k line results in 1gb of data used in a month (small-time home user), you'll hit that 1gb a lot sooner with a 4mb line and so you'll need more data on that line and so it will cost more than R90. Also consider this: if you have a 512k line you're probably not watching much streaming video or visiting other high-bandwidth sites but with your fancy new 4mb line you probably will and once again, require more data to visit those sites. If you can honestly say that you have a 512k line, upgrade to 4mb for R90 and never use more than the same amount of data you did with the slower line then I concede my argument.
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In regards to the very first post. Not sure if it's already been said. Just skimming through. But chances are, as I've seen people say, no and never 
Im sure in maybe 20 years something will change within that time. But yeah. Not anytime soon I would say.
Also with majority of people using lower line speeds if upgraded, as some have said, would be more stress on everything.
And with higher speeds, it's alot easier to burn bandwidth. So... telkom of course wont want that. Sooo.... all in all. I doubt we'll get upgraded anytime soon. Maybe when we're all dead and our children's children's children!!! are alive. They'll upgrade :3
On the bright side though telkom did upgrade I think it was 2GB users was it? and up to a higher cap limit which is quite nice. I now have 9GB. Sure it's small compared to overseas with their 200+GB caps and uncapped lol. But hey. It's better than nothing.
So least I got one prayer answered ^^
And in regards to the line speed increase only being x amount more. Regardless. Not everybody's line can support 4mbit anyways due to the whole quality of line, being however far away you are from the exchange. And these days prices for EVREYTHING are going up. So it can be as little as possible. But it's still more which means less money for food, paying your water etc. Already I've known at least 5 families of friends that have been having issues with money. So meh. Couldn't care about the price difference. But lets not go on about that
A slight speed increase would be nice. But Im sure it will be upgraded. Just not anytime soon. So to answer the question in a quick post.
No known date. Nothing has been said. It wont be anytime soon going by how telkom is going about things. So we can count on NOT being upgraded anytime soon. I think it would be safe to say not even within a year. (Again Im going by how telkom is going about things)
Im sure in maybe 20 years something will change within that time. But yeah. Not anytime soon I would say.Also with majority of people using lower line speeds if upgraded, as some have said, would be more stress on everything.
And with higher speeds, it's alot easier to burn bandwidth. So... telkom of course wont want that. Sooo.... all in all. I doubt we'll get upgraded anytime soon. Maybe when we're all dead and our children's children's children!!! are alive. They'll upgrade :3
On the bright side though telkom did upgrade I think it was 2GB users was it? and up to a higher cap limit which is quite nice. I now have 9GB. Sure it's small compared to overseas with their 200+GB caps and uncapped lol. But hey. It's better than nothing.
So least I got one prayer answered ^^
And in regards to the line speed increase only being x amount more. Regardless. Not everybody's line can support 4mbit anyways due to the whole quality of line, being however far away you are from the exchange. And these days prices for EVREYTHING are going up. So it can be as little as possible. But it's still more which means less money for food, paying your water etc. Already I've known at least 5 families of friends that have been having issues with money. So meh. Couldn't care about the price difference. But lets not go on about that
A slight speed increase would be nice. But Im sure it will be upgraded. Just not anytime soon. So to answer the question in a quick post.
No known date. Nothing has been said. It wont be anytime soon going by how telkom is going about things. So we can count on NOT being upgraded anytime soon. I think it would be safe to say not even within a year. (Again Im going by how telkom is going about things)