Which small/medium SUV?

Sinbad said:
Lol... 98 model. 248Mm on the clock when I got it
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1898, huh? Must have been a pre-release model then, coz the Model T only came out in 1908.

Ok ok ok, back on topic, I need to just point out that I also like the VW Tiguan, and I discovered that VW offers some very deep discounts on it (up to R50 000 off if you factor all the various incentives in). You get this "assistance" if you end up purchasing one during a "promotional period" (I doubt whatever a salesperson will claim in terms of the dealer discount they're authorised to apply to meet targets), and if you take VW finance for it, etc etc. I've seen entry-level Tiguans marked on retail for under R280 000 with all those incentives factored in, so it really is possible (4Motion models are a whole different story of course).
 
Foxhound5366 said:
Ok ok ok, back on topic, I need to just point out that I also like the VW Tiguan, and I discovered that VW offers some very deep discounts on it (up to R50 000 off if you factor all the various incentives in). You get this "assistance" if you end up purchasing one during a "promotional period" (I doubt whatever a salesperson will claim in terms of the dealer discount they're authorised to apply to meet targets), and if you take VW finance for it, etc etc. I've seen entry-level Tiguans marked on retail for under R280 000 with all those incentives factored in, so it really is possible (4Motion models are a whole different story of course).
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You can do better than the current Tiguan. It's not the best interior and the boot is quite small. Does look slightly dated now as well. The new one will set a bit of a benchmark again. Not far above some of the competition, but definitely slightly better, yet probably dearer. The 176kW TDi with DSG and the new 4motion system, with select terrain type control, will probably be pushing R600k... but then you have to ask yourself why you are not looking at a Cherokee Limited or Discovery Sport, or even the Upcoming V6 Amarok.

The best suggestion I've seen here is the Forester XT second hand. You can get a 2014 with under 50000km for less than R400k
 
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I have the Subaru XV (which is under-powered) but still awesome..
I'd get the Forester (with x-mode) if I was you:
[video=youtube;oaxggGLwWHE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaxggGLwWHE[/video]
 
nakedpeanut said:
I have the Subaru XV (which is under-powered) but still awesome..
I'd get the Forester (with x-mode) if I was you:
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There was also that roller test which the Subaru passed and everything else with AWD apparently failed (Honda, Toyota, Ford etc), although there were a few untested vehicles that would have also passed it at the time, like the X-Trail, Patriot and anything else with a central locking differential. These days there are a lot more vehicles in this class that would actually pass that test, including the new Tiguan and new Tucson.
 
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I really really really want a a forester for reasons unknown to me but the fuel consumption is putting me off a lot.
 
The_Mowgs said:
I really really really want a a forester for reasons unknown to me but the fuel consumption is putting me off a lot.
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I also thought the fuel consumption of the Forester is a bit high, then I remembered I've been in a E90 325i for 5 years now with a heavy right foot and comparing the Forester to my current real life consumption figures puts it in a much better light :D
 
I know I cant really compare the 2 but if I fill up my diesel tiguan in Cape Town, set the cruise control on 120 and aircon on, I only fill up again in Bloemfontein. It will be a bit difficult moving away from that type of consumption.
 
Quantum Theory said:
There was also that roller test which the Subaru passed and everything else with AWD apparently failed (Honda, Toyota, Ford etc), although there were a few untested vehicles that would have also passed it at the time, like the X-Trail, Patriot and anything else with a central locking differential. These days there are a lot more vehicles in this class that would actually pass that test, including the new Tiguan and new Tucson.
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Ya there a couple of these "tests" like
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLkvqsQEV2Q
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRniF4JQN2U

But you can definitely feel it working when you loose grip..and cornering is just excellent!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P21lwEYY-D0
That's why I opted for the XV, which has the same symmetrical awd and stability control, just smaller and cheaper with better styling :D
 
If you looking for power and comfort, why not a 4L Nissan Pathfinder or a Volvo XC90?
They not small, but loads of vooma and space.
You will be supprised at how cheap you can get one.

The 3,2 Suzuki Grand Vitara is also not looking to bad if you really looking for small.
 
wetkit said:
If you looking for power and comfort, why not a 4L Nissan Pathfinder or a Volvo XC90?
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Not many of those around for under 400k (at least not currently on Autotrader) and Volvo is Swedish, but thanks, haven't thought about the Pathfinder before

wetkit said:
The 3,2 Suzuki Grand Vitara is also not looking to bad if you really looking for small.
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Considered that, but the missus doesn't like its look ... perhaps she changes her mind when we go to test the new Vitara and a Grand Vitara happens to be on the floor ...
 
Sinbad said:
They made a diesel in the previous range.
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I used to drive that Diesel until about 3 months ago. Consumption is really awesome.

The only problems with the Forester (coming from somebody who have owned 3 of them) are two things. Firstly, after a certain mileage (130k, in my last one), things start to fail and it costs you money. This can be said about any car, but with Subaru being imported, repairs are a bit more pricey. I got to a point where it would cost my about +/- an additional installment in repairs for every four installments paid... Secondly, don't expect resale value. You will easily lose 60 - 80k when you trade it in.

That being said, those things EAT dirt roads. I traded it in on a BT-50, and the difference in handling on dirt roads is huge.
 
NarrowBandFtw said:
Which SUV would you recommend and why? Sticking strictly to options within these, non-negotiable, parameters:
- must be 4wd
- must be German or Japanese (the reason for this is a whole different thread ;) )
- must be under R400k from the dealer
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Meh, wouldn't be a "what car to buy thread" if I didn't recommend a Korean!! Hyundai Tucson. Done.
 
boeriebuffet said:
Meh, wouldn't be a "what car to buy thread" if I didn't recommend a Korean!! Hyundai Tucson. Done.
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Truth be told I'm not so heavily anti Korean, but the only 4wd Tucson is the top model which goes for R520k ... let that sink in, I'd be buying a BMW X-something if I was spending over half a mil, sure as hell not a Hyundai.
 
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