Which TV

McGuywer said:
Agreed and the STR500 was on special for R4k. Now adays you pay, R4.5k. Why would you buy/recommend the Sony over the Logitech?
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The sound differences, if you've actually heard the difference between the Sony and the Logitechs you'd buy the Logitechs. I've heard both and on numerous occasions and the Logitech actually wins on clarity and on depth. The Sony might cost less but it's not what I'd refer to as value for money.
 
Lupus said:
The sound differences, if you've actually heard the difference between the Sony and the Logitechs you'd buy the Logitechs. I've heard both and on numerous occasions and the Logitech actually wins on clarity and on depth. The Sony might cost less but it's not what I'd refer to as value for money.
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That is your opinion.
For you the Logitech is the better option.

OP, I use the Sony and is very impressed.
 
McGuywer said:
Agreed and the STR500 was on special for R4k. Now adays you pay, R4.5k. Why would you buy/recommend the Sony over the Logitech?
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I have the STR-500 and it sounds bloody fantastic at everything I've thrown at it - from Queen to Xmas carols to electronic & technical stuff like Four Tet and even some Massive Attack. I know quite a lot about Logitech speakers and they are notorious for having overly boomy subs, which hey - helps them sell as many people these days are into "simple" doef-doef music, gaming and such. Not to mention no mid range.

It makes no logical sense to me how a setup that has no mid drivers would satisfy the appetite of people who appreciate audio. I have the Z-2300 to compare with and it's obvious to someone whose heard full range music that mids are lacking. Audio is meant to be treble, mid and bass - not just treble and bass and an "attempt" and producing mids somewhere between the two.
 
McGuywer said:
That is your opinion.
For you the Logitech is the better option.

OP, I use the Sony and is very impressed.
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Agreed. I played through all the EQ settings, and I admit most aren't great although they suit different purposes, but I've found the best for me (and friends agree) and it's amazing.

The Logitechs will definitely win on the "boom" factor though. Something very different to sound quality!
 
In my the Sonys don't even have true bass anyhow :/

So if you really want to moan about a whole in teh frequency which isn't there, the Sonys have the same flaw
 
Dolby said:
In my the Sonys don't even have true bass anyhow :/
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Yeah, with my doors closed, the neighbours must have been complaining about the treble and not the bass. :rolleyes:

Sure, perhaps the sub doesn't go crazy low Hz like higher end audiophile stuff that costs a whole lot more, but let's not compare apples and oranges or over rate the needs of people with a R4,500 budget.
 
I can spend +-R6k on sound. Maby the Sony's is my best bet, and buy high-end sound later in life. Or maby I should use this money and start building the high-end system, only getting the very basic?
I'm leaning toward a full system now ie. the Sony's or something similar.
 
FYI ...

Looking at the sepcs here http://www.logitech.com/en-us/speakers-audio/home-pc-speakers/devices/224#section=specs , I see no hole in the frequency reange. I'm almost certain that when the engineers design and sell the system, they make sure it gets the full range.

Also bear in mind these have to go to THX to approve and licence in order to use the badge. Something tells me THX wouldn't approve if there was this gaping hole in the frequency.

EDIT : I'm also willing to bet I can find numerous pairs of cube speakers or sat/sub combos which will sound better the Sony. Granted - more expensive - but the size makde no difference (full range, holes in frequency etc)
 
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Dolby said:
FYI ...

Looking at the sepcs here http://www.logitech.com/en-us/speakers-audio/home-pc-speakers/devices/224#section=specs , I see no hole in the frequency reange. I'm almost certain that when the engineers design and sell the system, they make sure it gets the full range.

Also bear in mind these have to go to THX to approve and licence in order to use the badge. Something tells me THX wouldn't approve if there was this gaping hole in the frequency.

EDIT : I'm also willing to bet I can find numerous pairs of cube speakers or sat/sub combos which will sound better the Sony. Granted - more expensive - but the size makde no difference (full range, holes in frequency etc)
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Seriously Dolby, you of all people should know that just because speakers are advertised at "33 Hz — 20 kHz" does not mean that they are going to have good mids! And the THX branding is dubious, do some Googling and you will find out exactly how Logitech sets get THX certification. It's definitely not all to do with sound quality as you might think, and more about efficiency and distortion (or lack thereof) at high volumes.

Sony STR-500 speaker rating = 28Hz - 45kHz (:D), like totally owns the Z-5500!

Anyway, no need to derail this thread any further. OP needs a AV receiver/speaker package, not PC speakers that can only play from one digital source.

For R6000 you could consider the Sony 6.2 or there is a Pioneer 5.1 (could be 6.2 as well). But both those sets look like cr*p. At least the STR-500 looks awesome.
 
Where are your speaker specs?
Why don't you show me the link about Logitech and THX?

Should make interesting reading ...

PS Have you noticed you have the BEST surround system, the BEST console, the BEST TV and own the BEST everything? You're one lucky guy!
 
Dolby said:
Where are your speaker specs?
Why don't you show me the link about Logitech and THX?

Should make interesting reading ...
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Google yourself mate, I'm busy.

PS Have you noticed you have the BEST surround system, the BEST console, the BEST TV and own the BEST everything? You're one lucky guy!
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The best according to my relatively low budget (R10,000 for TV + audio). Huge difference between that and having the "best of everything", as you made up above. Hell knows how you came to that conclusion.

For R10,000, you cannot beat the PS42C430/C450 and Sony STR-500.
 
FYI Postman .... http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/.../logitech-z-5500-sound-quality-and-conclusion

I ran the test from 200Hz up to get an idea of how the satellites were performing within the full frequency range apart from the subwoofer interacting with the system. A separate sweep from 20Hz to 500 allowed me to see the subwoofer performance, though at lower frequencies you are likely showing off room interaction as much as the subwoofer's frequency response. The Logitech Z-5500 full range 3" satellites sounded pretty close to this graph - a bit lacking in mid-bass and a tad peaked in the 2 kHz to 3 kHz region.

Oh - here's a few more frequency graphs of sub/sat combinations

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pc-speaker-2.1-channel-subwoofer,2835-8.html

It looks though all these sub/sat combinations do - in fact - cover the frequency range .... just like your Sony speakers. If someone is looking for sound and another forum member recommends a sub/sat combination, try not knock it and just let the guys listen!
 
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Which is different to what I said how? Obviously they are full range drivers. Did I not say it will lack in mids? :confused:
 
But they're not lacking in the mids?

There's one really budget - but the Logitecs and many, many others don't lack? THAT'S how it's different to what you said!
 
Wow, you seriously do clutch at straws when you're proved wrong :/

You have the graphs in front of you of 6 sub/sat sets - and one budget system has a slight dip ... which makes you correct?

What are your model speakers?

I'll be interested to see a proper frequency curve. And yes - I'll look .... all I need is a model

I'm pretty sure we'll see the same dips in that curve but - as per normal - you'll say it doesn't exist
 
Another thing to consider is how many devices do you want to connect in the future? The STR-500 will offer much more versatility than the Z5500. You also have a built in tuner and multiple options for connecting extra CD/DVD/BluRay etc.

Personally I feel PC speakers are for PC's and HT should be built from components like the STR-500
 
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