Why cant i get 802.11N to work :(

Jizzims

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Ok dudes

i have a netgear DG2000 on the router i have an option to send 802.11G and N at the same time i bought myself a Belkin usb N adapter but still i get 54Mbps

WTF ??? dont know what to do ??
 

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I've also had some issues trying to get 802.11n devices to work at full speed.

802.11n is still a draft specification, so different vendors might have slightly different implementations that are not compatible with each other. I think once the standard is officially formalised, and vendors release updated firmware / drivers, we should see better inter-operability between devices.

Thats my 2 cents.

Wikipedia has more.
 

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I think that ToxicWazte may have a point here but there are a couple of thing I would try. As far as I know Belkin imported from the US the Netgear is from the UK. I know that the DGN2000 has a country setting but I'm not sure about the Belkin unit. Anyhow try set them to the same country. If you cant change the country code on the Belkin the set the Netgear to USA.

Also I don't know what Encryption Algorithm you are using. Try to start with WEP64. It authenticates quicker than the others and this might maintain a higher connection speed
 

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Are you certain your router can handle G and N at the same time, or is it rather one at a time?

Try setting it manually to N and see what happens.
 

Jizzims

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Router can handle G/N at the same time its an option there

Will try the country change. its screwed up still only get 54MBPS i mean we pay 800 for a Usb N adapter just to find out that its **** slow ??

eish also having problems with the AP trying to send N just wont happen
 

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Because there are many "version" of 802.11N
They may not be compatible.
 

Jizzims

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god if i knew that before i would of planned buying 5K equiptment a bit better ??

Like whats the diffrences ?
 

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Most of them are using different versions of draftN, which, as the name implies, is the draft ov the 802.11N spec.
 

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OK, first of all, N uses a lot of frequencies in the 2.4 range. Double that of G.
So, it could just be that there is some interferance from another device around the area.
So, first do a scan with your router to see what it picks up and then do another one with your USB stick.
Once done, look for a channel where you have the most open channels on either side, then pick that one as your channel for your AP.
Good luck.
 

Jizzims

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eish.... ok gonna give the channel swapping a go now

seriously need to get this up and running when is 802.11N going to be finalized ?
 

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Please note that Wireless N (802.11n) is not ratified as a standard yet.

You will _only_ get the Wireless N stated performance if used with the same Vendor peripherals, since each vendor has their own implementation of the Wireless N draft.

Should you for example use a Cisco or Dlink or Linksys Wireless N or G network device to connect to the None of the Above Vendor Access Point, it will only function at Wireless G ie. 54mbps (802.11G)

In a nutshell, use _one_ vendor with their own compatible peripherals to get the full benefit of Wireless N.
 

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802.11N finally ratified as a standard

Please note that Wireless N (802.11n) is not ratified as a standard yet.

You will _only_ get the Wireless N stated performance if used with the same Vendor peripherals, since each vendor has their own implementation of the Wireless N draft.

Should you for example use a Cisco or Dlink or Linksys Wireless N or G network device to connect to the None of the Above Vendor Access Point, it will only function at Wireless G ie. 54mbps (802.11G)

In a nutshell, use _one_ vendor with their own compatible peripherals to get the full benefit of Wireless N.

Finally after seven years of R & D, 802.11N otherwise known as Wireless N has finally been ratified as a new standard in Wireless Networking.

Hopefully there will be firmware updates by the various vendors to now conform to the new standard.

Otherwise it means new kit with the new standard already implemented.

Anyway, what I posted earlier was correct at time of posting, but as always, the goal posts are in constant state of motion in the IT arena :D
 

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my 2 rant & 25 cents.

you shouldn't mix N and B/G
either N, and only N, or a mix of whatever.

B and G traffic (on wider channels & on multiple antennas concurrently) constitute N.
Running vanilla B/G in a N environment interferes with N's performance.

We run Cisco VOIP handsets on B and PC's on A.

The moment you think you're gong to have your PC's on N (whoohoo performance) and your phones on B/G, forget it, N performance & range goes out the window when you switch on your first B/G AP.


get a Ruckus Zoneflex 7962.

(wish I had, lol)
 

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Gents,

802.11n uses 40MHz wide channels. The normal channel width is about 20MHz. This may overlap with existing 802.11b/g networks. You can select a different channel but make sure that you are about 3 channels away (at least). You can mix your environment but watch your frequencies. Check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/802.11b for the overlap of frequencies.

If you select channel 6 (2.437GHz), keeping in mind that the channel width is 20MHz (2.426GHz - 2.448GHz), you will be overlapping with channels 2,3,4,5,7,8,9 & 10.

Your best other option is to switch to 5.8GHz which has more - and wider - channels and therefore less overlap.

As for the interoperability issues, as stated before in this thread, the interpretations of the standard by each vendor may be the problem.

Don't expect to get 300mbps on a single antenna unit. 802.11n uses MIMO (Multiple Input Multiple Output), multiple antennae, to get up to 450mbps (150mbps per antenna x 3).
 
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