Why do I "need" FIBRE?

You're lucky with your copper but the question is for how much longer as Telkom does not do maintenance.

Had an average ticket logged every year for the last 3 years I had copper, ADSL we got back when it first launched in CT to public I think, would have been 2003-2004.

Fiber compared, browsing is a little faster, sites feel "smoother" if local, that 7ms on 21ms is actually noticeable.

The extra upload is great as Google Drive backups plus image uploads of Google Photos.

The higher speeds, don't use the phone line so used that saving to up the line speed.

In regards to downtime on fiber, never had that. About 16 months on OpenServe 100/50, never had downtime. Now on Frogfoot 100/100 for half a month, was a smooth swap (install was like 25 minutes as used previous ducting) and haven't had any downtime yet.

Still not sure why you'd torture yourself with 2Mbps copper, that's at most one steam in low quality. If you spend 8 hours a day consuming content, wouldn't you like it in at least HD?


Another advantage of fiber is that you will get the speed you pay for, no limit of "oh no, you are 200m too far from the exchange for the full speed, we can only let it sync at 80% of what you are paying for and only half of what you want even though you're willing to pay more".

Again, though, if install costs etc make it more expensive and not worth it, don't swap.
 
Based on the description of your context, and given that your current infrastructure appears to be meeting your Internet requirements, I concur with others who have concluded that you don't need fibre.
 
I will stay with ADSL until I can't anymore. The issue I have with LTE is that it has jitter, like all wireless type internet connections. Its also quite expensive and I refuse to be locked into a 24 month contract.
 
Some information for small families
(read on if you are spending too much on your data):
My wife and I are the only two who constantly use our internet connection.
Sometimes a visitor (or two or more) may connect and use it for a limited time.
We have (I think) the most economical setup for our purposes.
Our usage is:
Netflix streaming (not HD) almost 8 hours a day.
Email and Youtube viewing mostly in the evenings and weekends.
Some other sporadic web browsing from time to time.
Our equipment and service setup is:
One desktop PC connected to a 27 inch TV, one laptop, two cell phones.
All four devices are permanently connected via WIFI.
Copper ADSL (2Mbit/s) with land line telephone service.
ISP is Telkom Internet with 20Gb "Softcap" and 100Gb "Do Movies".
With persistence and patience you CAN get Telkom to make it work properly.
There is fibre line to our house and we have been offered fibre services.
Why do I "need" fibre? No one has adequately answered this question.

Well if I may ask what are you paying total for that?

10/5 uncapped unshaped unthrottled free installation with Cool ideas on Openserve fibre for R499. I won't be surprised if that is the same you are paying for that adsl if you include the landline rental fee.
 
Eventually the copper liberators will force you into glass. At R500/m for a 10mbps uncapped line, fiber is a great futures hedge. rollwith the times!
 
Dont want to seem rude but if you have to ask then it is probably not for you then.

I need Fibre for the upload speed.
I need fibre so I dont have to unplug when lightning is near.

I need fibre so I dont feel lag when someone needs to download a file.
Also, dont want to wait ages for a thing to download
This is actually a pretty good point, though it's only really valid comparing to ADSL. LTE wouldn't suffer from this problem.
 
This is actually a pretty good point, though it's only really valid comparing to ADSL. LTE wouldn't suffer from this problem.
Doesn't LTE get problematic with bad weather, at least in Jhb/Dbn where there is lightning and such?
 
This is actually a pretty good point, though it's only really valid comparing to ADSL. LTE wouldn't suffer from this problem.

Depends, some people believe lightning can still hit your house so LTE and Fibre can be housed under the same issue. But yes OP wanted to know why he/she/it/LGBTQABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRST... needed fibre. So if OP is using ADSL my point is valid.
 
Moved from 4mb ADSL(capped) to 20/2 Fibre (Uncapped) for like R140 more. Everything linked. Best move (except still having problems with Hellkom to close the account).

Pro's - Total cost, speed, unlimited data, many devices via wifi and lan etc, etc.
 
Copper signal goes over copper wire which causes degradation of the signal the further away you are from the exchange. Fiber transmits via light, thus signal is a lot stronger and distance is less of a factor. Weather affects copper connections. Fiber it does not.

On copper when you ping an address you might get anything between 50-100ms response fiber is roughly about 1-10ms response thus the latency on fiber is a lot less. Copper you are basically limited to 40mbs (if you are lucky to be in a VDSL area). Older areas you are lucky if you get 4mbs. Fiber can go up to 500mbs depending on ISP and provider (technically a lot faster however SA does not have the infrastructure yet).

Hellkom is no longer maintaining their copper network and are focusing on fiber.

So in a nutshell if you can get fiber, get it.

1gb/s packages are already available and quite cheap
 
1gb/s packages are already available and quite cheap

I've been looking for a good (decent amount of data) 1gb/s package, but they're definitely not cheap.
At that speed one would need AT LEAST 400-500gb of data - and that's easily 2k a month.

Cool Ideas seems to have some of the best deals from what I've seen, but only goes to 200/200. (At 1300 p/m uncapped)
 
I've been looking for a good (decent amount of data) 1gb/s package, but they're definitely not cheap.
At that speed one would need AT LEAST 400-500gb of data - and that's easily 2k a month.

Cool Ideas seems to have some of the best deals from what I've seen, but only goes to 200/200. (At 1300 p/m uncapped)

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There's always the exception to the rule.
It's not an exception. Now that it's more mainstream the cracks are starting to appear. Network issues will start to become more common. When Cool Ideas started everyone was singing their praises while I was saying that's not the way to go. Now people are complaining and they can't manage the load.

Depends, some people believe lightning can still hit your house so LTE and Fibre can be housed under the same issue. But yes OP wanted to know why he/she/it/LGBTQABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRST... needed fibre. So if OP is using ADSL my point is valid.
It's not a believe, it's a real possibility.
 
It's not an exception. Now that it's more mainstream the cracks are starting to appear. Network issues will start to become more common. When Cool Ideas started everyone was singing their praises while I was saying that's not the way to go. Now people are complaining and they can't manage the load.


It's not a believe, it's a real possibility.

Kwl story and thanks for commenting
 
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