Why do you use/prefer Android vs. iOS?

[AdrianH]

[*]I haven't had a single Android phone that didn't slow down after a while. This has never happened to me on an iPhone. So to me, longevity.
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Apple has admitted to slowing down older phones and has been paying fines and settlements for it since. Longevity my ass LOL

 

[Rickster]

-No Wifi analyzer apps
-No terminal emulator apps
-Bare minimum customisation.
-Can't set a MP3 as a ringtone
-Poor DPI screens on base models (hw issue not sw)

Honestly iOS is Apple's worst enemy, make a iPhone with Android and Android users will probably go bananas for it, I know I would.

 

[Johnatan56]

Prefer android due to more open eco system, If I want to make an app it's pretty easy to add, have a few apps sideloaded. Non system apps can use NFC. Aux port.

Being able to drag apps where I like on my home screen.

Over time android is embracing the best of ios, and ios of Android, it's nice.

 

[grok]

I don't have to wear a turtleneck with Android.

 

[Mr Scratch]

ngl
android devices that recieve regular updates from google or vendor are actually quite close to iOS in terms of security if bounty prices are anything to go by...

I miss my old HTC One, it was my last Android phone

 

[DA-LION-619]

-No Wifi analyzer apps
-No terminal emulator apps
-Bare minimum customisation.
-Can't set a MP3 as a ringtone
-Poor DPI screens on base models (hw issue not sw)

Honestly iOS is Apple's worst enemy, make a iPhone with Android and Android users will probably go bananas for it, I know I would.

The Wi-Fi analyser aspect sucks but it’s a privacy issue thing. There are terminal apps, it’s also possible to set a MP3 as ringtone.

 

[Rickster]

The Wi-Fi analyser aspect sucks but it’s a privacy issue thing. There are terminal apps, it’s also possible to set a MP3 as ringtone.

Privacy issue? Please elaborate...all im interested in is what SSID's use what channels.

And when i say terminal emulator i mean like a CMD box for basic pings and traceroutes, not SSH, is there a CMD emulator for iOS?

 

[DA-LION-619]

Privacy issue? Please elaborate...all im interested in is what SSID's use what channels.

And when i say terminal emulator i mean like a CMD box for basic pings and traceroutes, not SSH, is there a CMD emulator for iOS?

Well basically that, you can’t scan or probe all the SSID’s around as it becomes a means to fingerprint you relative to those networks or other devices.
I think there are exceptions for developers but it’s limited to your networks, BLE beacons etc.

I don’t know of any available basic CMD app or something similar to BusyBox.

 

[Mr Scratch]

Apple doesn't allow 3rd party devs access to the needed APIs to handle WiFi related stuff, it's all sandboxed out

You can get terminal emu but still sandboxed and very limited to userland and pre-installed utilities

 

[Mr Scratch]

for that nerd stuff go buy something else! seperate your comms and recon devices

 

[AdrianH]

Android added DoT in 2018 (Android 9) while Apple added it in 2020 (iOS 14).

1) If you don't know what DoT is, then saying iOS has "better privacy" makes you look ignorant.

2) If you do know what DoT is and used an iPhone between 2028 and mid-2020, then privacy wasn't the reason you bought and iPhone.

 

[AdrianH]

Oh yeah for sure, I only consider flagship devices. Samsung still suck, the Google phones werent exactly solid feeling either.
I have never held a Oneplus but Im strongly considering one for my next phone.

Apple just generally have better build quality, despite that Im liking the company less and less lately.

Check out Oppo. In fact, Oppo have majority share holding in OnePlus, and some of Oppo software and cloud services is used by OnePlus.

I have an Oppo A53 mainly for my SA sim card as I am in UK. It feels solid, performs well, has decent features like 90Hz display, NFC, even a good old headphone jack, overall a good phone. Only issue I have is the size, it's so big.

 

[DA-LION-619]

Android added DoT in 2018 (Android 9) while Apple added it in 2020 (iOS 14).

1) If you don't know what DoT is, then saying iOS has "better privacy" makes you look ignorant.

2) If you do know what DoT is and used an iPhone between 2028 and mid-2020, then privacy wasn't the reason you bought and iPhone.

How did you use DoT in 2018?

 

[AdrianH]

How did you use DoT in 2018?

Not sure what you mean? Do you mean which servers I used?

Both Quad9 and Cloudfare had DoT servers in 2018. I used Quad9.

Edit: In all fairness, I think my phone only received the Android 9 update late that year, so couldn't use it until the upgrade came through.

I actually still use Quad9, but via AdGuard.

 

[DA-LION-619]

Not sure what you mean? Do you mean which servers I used?

Both Quad9 and Cloudfare had DoT servers in 2018. I used Quad9.

I actually still use Quad9, but via AdGuard.

So between Android 9 and CF launching their app, it's roughly 3 months maybe of no DoT/DoH on iOS?

 

[AdrianH]

So between Android 9 and CF launching their app, it's roughly 3 months maybe of no DoT/DoH on iOS?

Sure, if that's how you want to look at at.

We are talking about Android and iOS though and the perceived better privacy of iOS. If we bring 3rd party apps into the fray, then we might as well bring in custom Android ROMs which will blow standard Android and iOS out of the water when it comes to privacy.

 

[DA-LION-619]

Sure, if that's how you want to look at at.

We are talking about Android and iOS though and the perceived better privacy of iOS. If we bring 3rd party apps into the fray, then we might as well bring in custom Android ROMs which will blow standard Android and iOS out of the water when it comes to privacy.

I’m looking at a feature that isn’t active useless someone sets it up.
If you’re bringing in the first public DNS service to offer the ability, then you might as well bring in their app?

Android does iOS beat in the mobile network aspect though, without a VPN or profile configuration you can’t control your DNS there

 

[Mr Scratch]

sometimes is ain't about being first

 

[AdrianH]

I’m looking at a feature that isn’t active useless someone sets it up.
If you’re bringing in the first public DNS service to offer the ability, then you might as well bring in their app?

Android does iOS beat in the mobile network aspect though, without a VPN or profile configuration you can’t control your DNS there

Quad9 was actually first in 2017, I don't believe they have or had an app, I stand to he corrected though. Indeed though, DoT is useless unless it's configured.

Google felt in 2017 during Android 9 development that DoT was an important enough privacy feature to be implemented, while Apple didn't until two years later. I don't believe a 3rd party app should be used to gauge features or capabilities of an OS.

What irks me though is when a person makes a comment they use iPhone because it has better privacy than Android, what is the comment based on, or is it just an echo chamber for the iPhone fans? I would bet the vast majority of people that say they use an iphone for better privacy don't have a clue what that actually means, and this goes for Android users as well. They are probably all on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, and Twitter. They probably don't use a privacy VPN. They probably don't use Dot or DoH. They probably happily use Google and Gmail services, and other online services and location services.

It sort of reminds me of the argument between Windows and Linux. The Linux fans would always use the argument "If there's a bug or security issue in Linux, I can download the code and fix it, therefore Linux is better". Truth is, 99.999% of these people haven't got a clue how to debug, code and rebuild Linix, and a small percentage may download a patch and run that, which is no different to running a Windows Update. The chance of the majority of these "Linux is better because I can fix it" users fixing a security exploit is zero to none and for the average Linux user, it's a moot comment.

 

[Sads-1-zn]

Seriously guys stop shaming people who buy iPhones. It's 2021 and nobody should be ridiculed for their preferences.