Why Engagement Rings Are a Scam

[WaxLyrical]

Knock her up and use that to prove that she's engaged.

Its cheaper.

 

[Looney]

Oh crap... I just bought an engagement ring...

 

[supersunbird]

Knock her up and use that to prove that she's engaged.

Its cheaper.

Kids aren't cheap. But if you planed on having them anyway it would work out cheaper to just Kid then Kid + Engagement ring...

 

[ShaunSA]

As long as you tell your fiancee that it's a cubic zirconia. You do not want her to find out from the nosy friend who's going to do a thorough examination of that ring

Ah so that's what made you so angry at men

Is romance completely dead on this forum?

No. We just don't equate it with money

 

[Beachless]

As long as you tell your fiancee that it's a cubic zirconia. You do not want her to find out from the nosy friend who's going to do a thorough examination of that ring

Of course, otherwise whats the point of getting married.

 

[Celine]

Is romance completely dead on this forum?

not at all. it's just a person's preference. it doesn't mean i have no romance in my marriage all it means is that i see value for my money. for instance we moved and have no stove just the oven. my husband wanted to buy me a stove and i saw the prices. R4000.00 :wtf: i will wait till i have redone my kitchen when the money is available then get my oven and hob. in the meantime i bought a 2 plate stove, R125.00 good enough for me. i still have the oven. i ain't paying no furniture store R4000.00 for a simple stove. i have a small bond to pay and i want it paid by the end of this year thank you very much, the bank is NOT going to make interest off me that's for blooming sure.

i get my priorities in order much to the hubby's shock and still after 24 years of being together. he doesn't get it.

he wanted to buy me a new lounge suite as well...............are you kidding me R22 000 plus. i found a good upholsterer and redid my old lounge suite, R3 500.00. i want another lounge suite so i'm going to look for a second hand one in the second hand shops or pawn shops and get the thing reupholstered. you will be surprised what a good upholsterer can do to an old lounge suite.

i count my pennies .

 

[hellfire]

not at all. it's just a person's preference. it doesn't mean i have no romance in my marriage all it means is that i see value for my money. for instance we moved and have no stove just the oven. my husband wanted to buy me a stove and i saw the prices. R4000.00 :wtf: i will wait till i have redone my kitchen when the money is available then get my oven and hob. in the meantime i bought a 2 plate stove, R125.00 good enough for me. i still have the oven. i ain't paying no furniture store R4000.00 for a simple stove. i have a small bond to pay and i want it paid by the end of this year thank you very much, the bank is NOT going to make interest off me that's for blooming sure.

i get my priorities in order much to the hubby's shock and still after 24 years of being together. he doesn't get it.

he wanted to buy me a new lounge suite as well...............are you kidding me R22 000 plus. i found a good upholsterer and redid my old lounge suite, R3 500.00. i want another lounge suite so i'm going to look for a second hand one in the second hand shops or pawn shops and get the thing reupholstered. you will be surprised what a good upholsterer can do to an old lounge suite.

i count my pennies .

ok, you're an atypical woman - I get that.
But many people (not just women) like gifts that are intrinsically worthless - flowers, jewellery, expensive pens and watches; the list is pretty much endless.
Giving to someone else is a romantic gesture, and if the gift is within the bounds of your affordability then I don't see what the problem is.

 

[BrrIan]

Giving to someone else is a romantic gesture, and if the gift is within the bounds of your affordability then I don't see what the problem is.

A person would have to have a lot of spare money to burn two or three months pay for a piece of rock.

 

[Mila]

Good luck convincing any woman that she doesn't need an engagement ring

I don't have one or need one. Been engaged since August 2012.
But then again I don't want a wedding either so no family was told about the engagement.. Which probably mean it is not a real one ..

 

[ponder]

Heard this years ago, De Beers did a good job.

 

[bwana]

Unless she's a geologist that works with crystals.

Or the jeweler she takes it to get valued for insurance?

 

[Humberto]

How much would a gold engagement ring with a pink diamond cost?

According to the Wikipedia article on engagement rings, the practice can be traced back to the 15th century. So the YouTube video that claims De Beers started it may not be entirely accurate.

Personally I'll not wear a wedding ring because I consider it unhygienic.

 

[supersunbird]

How much would a gold engagement ring with a pink diamond cost?

According to the Wikipedia article on engagement rings, the practice can be traced back to the 15th century. So the YouTube video that claims De Beers started it may not be entirely accurate.

Personally I'll not wear a wedding ring because I consider it unhygienic.

And other people warming your seat for you is hygienic?

 

[dreamrobin]

How much would a gold engagement ring with a pink diamond cost?

According to the Wikipedia article on engagement rings, the practice can be traced back to the 15th century. So the YouTube video that claims De Beers started it may not be entirely accurate.

Personally I'll not wear a wedding ring because I consider it unhygienic.

Gold ring with pink diamond, hideous.

 

[noxibox]

According to the Wikipedia article on engagement rings, the practice can be traced back to the 15th century. So the YouTube video that claims De Beers started it may not be entirely accurate.

Not rings as such, but popularising the diamond ring in modern times. Such rings made sense when diamonds were a rare commodity and it was the wealthy buying them. The expense was both no big deal and the diamond could be disposed of later for a good price if it ever became necessary to sell it. It makes no sense for the average person to spend several months' income on one today. The Wikipedia article on engagement rings does state that De Beers are behind this.

In fact much of what we consider the standard way to have a wedding is manufactured by marketing and fairly modern. Weddings themselves being another huge scam to separate couples from big chunks of their, or their parents', money.

 

[googoodoll]

I don't have one or need one. Been engaged since August 2012.
But then again I don't want a wedding either so no family was told about the engagement.. Which probably mean it is not a real one ..

hahaha omg if that's how it works I've been engaged since 2008

 

[murraybiscuit]

As with most things, it's not that simple. Sexual selection and child rearing are complicated. We all know the De Beers tale, but it's somewhat twee.

Humans adopt a mix of tournament and pair bonding mating models. We typically take the commitment aspects of pair bonding (female selector) and the male dominance aspect of tournament species (male selector). The approach varies based on social history and economics of the group.

We know the typical peacock plumage payload and the weaver bird nest pickiness. In cases where gestation and child rearing requires more dependency on a partner for a longer time, the selection of that partner hinges on their ability to provide materially. In situations where there is little social or family support for child rearing, emotional commitment is added to the shopping list.

Humans have had dowry / lobola etc for ever. In traditional societies, women have not been educated, or employed and have been relegated to childbearing due to biology. I'm not making a prescriptive statement of what 'ought' to be.

The point being that children are expensive - both biologically and financially. If you're a pretty girl who wants lotsa kids, chances are you can be more selective about your mate. He in turn will need to display providence and competitive advantage by some display of commitment to mitigate the risk of dependency.

To further complicate things, dowry / lobola and children are also linked to retirement. Which is why the wife's family is compensated for the potential loss of income from a grandson which will now go to their son-in-law. Believe it or not, these practices were popular because they worked.

The problem is that biological and economic factors are changing due to the need for fewer children, personal retirement planning, education and employment of women, contraception etc.

What the OP video conveniently omits is that romantic love as grounds for marriage is as modern and western as de Beers marketing. Traditionally, sexual selection and marriage have been far less about the happiness of the individual and far more about the benefit of the group. Which is why the video appeals to college students. At the acme of their selfish life, an 18 year old male would naturally neither be able to afford nor want anything to do with marriage and kids. Give it another decade when biological clocks are ticking and salaries are higher and it's a different ball game.

 

[Mila]

hahaha omg if that's how it works I've been engaged since 2008

he asked I said yes, I asked him do you want the pressure of the whole family to have a party?
He said no, so I said then keep it to yourself.

 

[Rocket Raccoon]

i count my pennies .

Why can't my girlfriend be like you.

 

[googoodoll]

he asked I said yes, I asked him do you want the pressure of the whole family to have a party?
He said no, so I said then keep it to yourself.

haha that's kinda funny and cute