Why has no one branded SPAIN A CHEAT?

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With all that is going on with Suarez, why has NO ONE BRANDED SPAIN A CHEAT? When Paraguay took the penalty 3 players entered the penalty area before the kick was taken... Why was the penalty not retaken?

It happened when Spain took the penalty, so does that not make SPAIN players a cheat as well????

Additionally why has no one branded the linesmen as a CHEAT as he flagged Nelson Valdez goal as offside when replay clearly shows he was on side.
 
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Firstly the penalty rushing is something the everybody does. The Paraguay penalty was where the ref probably became aware of the rushing, after he awarded the goal, and pretty much decided to get harsh on it. The Spain penalty was not taken again because of Paraguay rushing the box, but because Spain rushed it. [-]Technically he got it wrong, it should have been a free kick to Paraguay, not a retake, but that's beside the point[/-] He got the retake right. Old rules was a free kick to Paraguay. Spain cost themselves the goal, by making the ref aware of their encroachment with the first penalty. I personally think the ref only clicked on the rushing after he had awarded the goal.

Then the Valdez goal, it was very definitely offside. However it was not him who was offside. I can't remember offhand who the other player was, but he was the one offside, and he was the one flagged. Although he did not touch the ball, he is still very much offside. He made an attempt the play the ball, from an offside position, and affected the run of play. By making the attempt, he pulled defenders towards him, which could have been marking Valdez, and thus gave his team an unlawful advantage. Thus the offside. As passionate as you want to be about that, it was offside, by all standards. If you were listening to the commentator on SABC1, he got that very wrong, however the experts at half time pointed out his mistake.

So I don't think Spain should be branded a cheat. If you look at almost every side, they are guilty of rushing the penalty box. If you want to get sticky about stuff like that, technically the keeper is not allowed to move off of the goal line until the ball is actually kicked, but almost every single keeper moves as the striker plants his left foot, and they invariably move forward, so technically almost all penalties in the modern games would need to be retaken.

My opinion, and interpretation of the rules of the game.
 
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It's actually quite a simple answer. The Spanish defenders in the box did so accidentally or were a fraction too early with no impact on what happened thereafter. The Uraguay incident was a whole different ball game, so to speak...
 
With all that is going on with Suarez, why has NO ONE BRANDED SPAIN A CHEAT? When Paraguay took the penalty 3 players entered the penalty area before the kick was taken... Why was the penalty not retaken?

It happened when Spain took the penalty, so does that not make SPAIN players a cheat as well????

Additionally why has no one branded the linesmen as a CHEAT as he flagged Nelson Valdez goal as offside when replay clearly shows he was on side.

One is by accident (Spain)...The devil (Saurez) did it on purpose. Fifa should ban him for life from all future world cup games!
 
One is by accident (Spain)...The devil (Saurez) did it on purpose. Fifa should ban him for life from all future world cup games!

Then we go and make football an amateur sport again, we can go further by saying the Industrial Revolution was bad because big business also cheats and well... lets get back to villages and a tribal way of living. Hold, we should have never come out the trees and I'm sure there's even someone who wrote a while back that that getting out of the oceans was an even worse idea than getting out the trees. :rolleyes:
 
It's actually quite a simple answer. The Spanish defenders in the box did so accidentally or were a fraction too early with no impact on what happened thereafter. The Uraguay incident was a whole different ball game, so to speak...

Ummm no DJ, it is just another case of ref's, linesman not being consistent. It did not matter as spain missed a pen so that was even. I mean you could say they did it accidentally with alonso's pen as well yet that never stood. Besides spain should have had another pen when the keeper took out fabregas.

That offside goal was offside because of the first player who jumped for the ball and while he never touched it he was interfering with play. They should never have changed this offside ruling because even the linesman cock it up all the time. It was the correct decision though.
 
The fact of the matter is that Saurez cheated. He deliberately handled the ball to deny the other side a goal. No amount of nit picking other instances will change that.
 
Spain won fair and square, Thats the end of it!

So did Uruguay. Suarez handballed, he got redcarded, Ghana got given a fair opportunity to score and secure a place in the semi's.

Also, why hasn't Tevez been banned for life, he was offside by 2 m in that goal against Mexico.
 
So did Uruguay. Suarez handballed, he got redcarded, Ghana got given a fair opportunity to score and secure a place in the semi's.

Also, why hasn't Tevez been banned for life, he was offside by 2 m in that goal against Mexico.

Why discuss other issues here, who said I have a different opinion on the Ghana saga? Gyan lost the game. End of it. Stick to the topic which is "Spain is not a cheat!"
 
Can anyone say flogging a dead horse?!?

Yes, obviously YOU can. Spain is still in the running if maybe you could not notice, so I do not believe its a "DEAD HORSE' As it is still relevant whether or not they are "CHEATS". My opinion is NO! Live with it.
 
Yes, obviously YOU can. Spain is still in the running if maybe you could not notice, so I do not believe its a "DEAD HORSE' As it is still relevant whether or not they are "CHEATS". My opinion is NO! Live with it.

Anyone with a respectable level of intellect would, without much effort, be able to read between the lines of fishfly's post to see what he is actually insinuating. Add to this the noise he has been making in other threads and it makes it even more obvious. Well so i would have thought.... but apparently not to everyone.

But it's fine, you just keep waffling on...
 
It sitll amazes me how followers of the game get the offisde rule WRONG! Its a simple rule. I could not believe it when the commentator on SS kept on saying that the goal should have been allowed. He is a freakin commentator and should understand all the rules of the game.

That was CLEAR CLEAR offside. The player in front of Valdes INTERFERED with play and the linesman correctly flagged him for offside.
 
Anyone with a respectable level of intellect would, without much effort, be able to read between the lines of fishfly's post to see what he is actually insinuating. Add to this the noise he has been making in other threads and it makes it even more obvious. Well so i would have thought.... but apparently not to everyone.

But it's fine, you just keep waffling on...

lol it's not noise, it's fact...

Fact of the matter is: people who bitch and moan about Suarez - sure he is a nob for his comments after the game - but a cheat? that's going too far, why? Perhaps due to people who does not understand Football or the RULES to football. Handball is handball, be it inside the box or outside the box.

If everyone wants to complain without understanding the rules then perhaps they should familarise themselves with the rules before such outcries.
 
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