Why I prefer Opera

mercurial said:
Of course I can blame Opera. It's just a normal html page. If it can't even open that, then it is not worthy of being deemed a browser. I should not have to open up different apps all the time just to change settings. One browser should be able to do it all.
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You can't have your cake and eat it ;)
 
Have to agree with mercurial. I only use a piece of software if it meets all the tasks that I can reasonably expect it to perform.
 
Not quite, Opera is strict in its HTML rendering. Most browsers will attempt to render badly coded pages, whereas Opera doesn't. The code is more to blame than Opera if it doesn't conform to standards.
 
CodeMaster said:
Not quite, Opera is ery strict in its HTML rendering. Most browsers will attempt to render badly coded pages, whereas Opera doesn't. The code is more to blame than Opera if it doesn't conform to standards.
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well then it will lose out to FF and any other browser that displays. Which actually has happended with my trying to use Opera. Too many times Konqueror and Swiftfox/FF can open a page yet it can't.
 
Glordit said:
You can't have your cake and eat it ;)
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Erm, yes I can. What else am I supposed to do with it? Put it on show?

milomak said:
Have to agree with mercurial. I only use a piece of software if it meets all the tasks that I can reasonably expect it to perform.
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Precisely.

CodeMaster said:
Not quite, Opera is strict in its HTML rendering. Most browsers will attempt to render badly coded pages, whereas Opera doesn't. The code is more to blame than Opera if it doesn't conform to standards.
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Not my problem that Opera has PMS. It should be able to handle any page. You can't blame the router lol come on now. Opera is the one that is not conforming to standards.

milomak said:
well then it will lose out to FF and any other browser that displays. Which actually has happended with my trying to use Opera. Too many times Konqueror and Swiftfox/FF can open a page yet it can't.
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Precisely. This why Opera will never beat FireFox.
 
Just remembered, in Opera you can also right-click a page and select "edit site preferences..." and chose the 'Network' tab. At the bottom is an option to allow Opera to identify itself as a different browser. You can always try set Opera to identify itself as IE or FF for your routers config pages.

Anyway, each to his own... :D
 
CodeMaster said:
Just remembered, in Opera you can also right-click a page and select "edit site preferences..." and chose the 'Network' tab. At the bottom is an option to allow Opera to identify itself as a different browser. You can always try set Opera to identify itself as IE or FF for your routers config pages.

Anyway, each to his own... :D
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I tried all possible options and couldn't get it working. Maybe next time I'll check that out. FF has been giving me problems lately so now I'm using Flock, which is almost a replica of FF.
 
mercurial said:
Not my problem that Opera has PMS. It should be able to handle any page. You can't blame the router lol come on now. Opera is the one that is not conforming to standards.
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Thats the attitude that lets Microsoft get away with not conforming to standards. IE has a large share of the market so they can do what they want as long as it renders in their browser.

On a seperate note, been an opera user for a long time mainly because its done alot of the cool things long before all the others. Tab browsing anyone?
 
again pretty sure opera didn't invent tabbed browsing either.

But wizzard your point is moot when browsers like Konqueror (webkit/safari) and FF are able to render the same sites that Opera can't. It makes Opera's Acid3 100% pass meaningless in real life.

This is posted from Opera.
 
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wizzard said:
Thats the attitude that lets Microsoft get away with not conforming to standards. IE has a large share of the market so they can do what they want as long as it renders in their browser.

On a seperate note, been an opera user for a long time mainly because its done alot of the cool things long before all the others. Tab browsing anyone?
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I'd like to see these "Standards" that you and the other poster keep referring to. Why is it that every other browser does the job but Opera can't? It's simply not good enough.

milomak said:
again pretty sure opera didn't invent tabbed browsing either.

But wizzard your point is moot when browsers like Konqueror (webkit/safari) and FF are able to render the same sites that Opera can't. It makes Opera's Acid3 100% pass meaningless in real life.
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Exactly.
 
I also think that Opera wasn't the first to have tabbed browsing...

Opera is not a bad browser at all, but I prefer Firefox myself :)
 
Will give it a try - am have FF issues here at work on Windows - does not want to load gmail - sort of goes in a loop. Have the same problems sometimes on the DSTV site when it tries to sign me in. Could be a firewall issue but gmail is not blocked before 8 in the morning.
 
adsl - what extensions do you have running? Have you enabled cookies for those sites? I remember with the dstv site that along with making sure the signmein.co.za site was enabled (cookies and NoScript), I aslso had to do the sam efor all the subsites, eg superrugby, supersoccer etc.
 
mercurial said:
I'd like to see these "Standards" that you and the other poster keep referring to. Why is it that every other browser does the job but Opera can't? It's simply not good enough.
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http://www.w3.org/

I'm a developer so I do stuff in alot of browsers. If something works in Opera, it works in every browser
 
wizzard said:
http://www.w3.org/
If something works in Opera, it works in every browser
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Surely the position they would want to be in is that every site works with Opera. It's no good being a snob towards sites that aren't standards compliant unless you hold the majority position as a browser.
 
milomak said:
Surely the position they would want to be in is that every site works with Opera. It's no good being a snob towards sites that aren't standards compliant unless you hold the majority position as a browser.
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Exactly. It's fine if they want to be "professional" but the fact is that most people will be put off by this and they simply won't use Opera.
 
Like I said, just make Opera identify itself as IE or FF and the site will work... it's really quite easy.
 
I like opera for the mouse movement shortcut thingies. I often find myself doing the "Hold Right Mouse button and move mouse to the left" thing in IE. :rolleyes:

Also the speed dial function is cool. :)
 
CodeMaster said:
Like I said, just make Opera identify itself as IE or FF and the site will work... it's really quite easy.
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I'll give it a try next time.

Toxin said:
I like opera for the mouse movement shortcut thingies. I often find myself doing the "Hold Right Mouse button and move mouse to the left" thing in IE. :rolleyes:

Also the speed dial function is cool. :)
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FF also has a speed dial extension.
 
Mouse gestures, love it too. It is available as a FF extension, and also available for IE, but not very functional.

Toxin said:
I like opera for the mouse movement shortcut thingies. I often find myself doing the "Hold Right Mouse button and move mouse to the left" thing in IE. :rolleyes:

Also the speed dial function is cool. :)
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