Why so much rage ?

genetic said:
The law is skewed toward motorcyclists, as it is to pedestrians unfortunately.

If the speed differential between the moving traffic and motorcyclist is greater than 20kph whilst lane splitting, then the motorcyclist was riding recklessly and could be liable for any damages or injuries incurred.
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OK, that makes sense - I missed that...
 
Sinbad said:
There's a very good reason for still riding between lanes when traffic is moving... And that is the fact that when the chop looking at his whatsapp messages drives into the vehicle in front of him, if it's a car it's an annoyance, if it's a bike it's hospital, physio, permanent damage...
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If I'm driving at the speed limit on a single lane each way road, 60, and you come speeding up at 80-100 behind me I WILL STAY IN THE MIDDLE of my lane. You can then wait for oncoming traffic to clear before passing on the non-solid line. If its solid I hope there is a cop that can give you a ticket for crossing the solid line. That rule is one of the ones you need to know to pass your learners license.
 
Venomous said:
If I'm driving at the speed limit on a single lane each way road, 60, and you come speeding up at 80-100 behind me I WILL STAY IN THE MIDDLE of my lane. You can then wait for oncoming traffic to clear before passing on the non-solid line. If its solid I hope there is a cop that can give you a ticket for crossing the solid line. That rule is one of the ones you need to know to pass your learners license.
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100% correct. I said riding between lanes. Not overtaking at higher than the speed limit.
 
Venomous said:
That is subject to traffic conditions, lane markings...
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Yes, lane splitting is legal as long as the motorcyclist adheres to the rules of the road. Lane splitting does not abscond them from the rest of the traffic laws.
 
genetic said:
Yes, lane splitting is legal as long as the motorcyclist adheres to the rules of the road. Lane splitting does not abscond them from the rest of the traffic laws.
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*absolve
 
Sinbad said:
Nothing on their page says you can't overtake inside a lane. They've even quoted the act there.
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LOL I got it from that page - quoted verbatim. It's even bolded in the article

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JetsetWilly said:
LOL I got it from that page - quoted verbatim. It's even bolded in the article

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Yes, their opinion states that but none of the legislation they quoted says that.

Here's a key extract from the legislation they quoted:
(3) The driver of a vehicle on a public road shall, except in the circumstances referred to in the first proviso to subregulation (1), upon becoming aware of other traffic proceeding in the same direction and wishing to pass his or her vehicle, cause his or her vehicle to travel as near to the left edge of the roadway as is possible, without endangering himself or herself or other traffic or property on the roadway, and shall not accelerate the speed of his or her vehicle until the other vehicle has passed.

So all you car drivers who don't move as far to the left as possible when you see a bike wanting to overtake you are breaking the law.
 
LazyLion said:
Almost all bikers I see on the highway are exceeding the speed limit.
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On a 3 lane highway I tend to stay in the middle lane, going 120 where possible. Then the jack asses in their 5 series bmws and flying bikes can have the right lane.

I've more than once had a faster can coming up on my right and then a bike keeping up with it, or even attempting to over take in the middle lane.
I will not merge with the trucks doing 80 when I am capable of stayiing where I am, and there is ample space in the 3rd lane for the reckless drivers.
 
Sinbad said:
So all you car drivers who don't move as far to the left as possible when you see a bike wanting to overtake you are breaking the law.
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That would never stand up in court. It's easy to say you felt you were endangering yourself. Not referring to driving on the line - you should always stick to the left, irrespective of which lane you're in.
 
Sinbad said:
So all you car drivers who don't move as far to the left as possible when you see a bike wanting to overtake you are breaking the law.
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I always move over to the left, and 99% of the time get a thank you in return. I don't understand why some people don't just move over and let bikes pass safely. It's an arrogance problem from the person behind the wheel.
 
JetsetWilly said:
That would never stand up in court. It's easy to say you felt you were endangering yourself. Not referring to driving on the line - you should always stick to the left, irrespective of which lane you're in.
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If the biker has a helmet cam, you may find that actually, in court, you will lose if there's adequate video evidence of adequate safe space... but anyway.

Point is, lane splitting is legal and fine. Lane splitting at speeds well in excess of car speed is just stupid.
 
Sinbad said:
Yes, their opinion states that but none of the legislation they quoted says that.

Here's a key extract from the legislation they quoted:
(3) The driver of a vehicle on a public road shall, except in the circumstances referred to in the first proviso to subregulation (1), upon becoming aware of other traffic proceeding in the same direction and wishing to pass his or her vehicle, cause his or her vehicle to travel as near to the left edge of the roadway as is possible, without endangering himself or herself or other traffic or property on the roadway, and shall not accelerate the speed of his or her vehicle until the other vehicle has passed.

So all you car drivers who don't move as far to the left as possible when you see a bike wanting to overtake you are breaking the law.
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I will not clip the curbs. I stay a responsible distance away from the road side and that is not illegal.


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Besides many roads in my area are barely wide enough to fit cars going each direction, there is not really space in the middle even if you attempt to grind your mags on the curb.
 
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Venomous said:
I will not clip the curbs. I stay a responsible distance away from the road side and that is not illegal.
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100%. It says without endangering self or others or property.
 
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