Will you vote in next year's election?

Will you vote in next year's election?

  • Yes

    Votes: 295 89.7%

  • No

    Votes: 34 10.3%
  • Total voters
    329
Spizz said:
I feel we should have a third option explaining why. My 'no' is because I'm a permanent resident like a few of us on here and are not allowed to vote. It would be helpful to see who is 'no'. but are actively choosing not to vote.
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Or maybe modify the title to read "If eligible, will you vote?"
 
9.5 million registered voters didn't turn out in 2019. If a third of that useless lot voted for anybody but the ANC they lose their 51% majority. And as the ANC's grip on power slowly weakens, voting now is even more important than ever before.
 
LCBXX said:
Spoiling your ballot also counts.
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Not really meaningful enough here, there's semi-literate people going to the polls as well, and a number of different reasons why some would spoil their vote. It can also be seen as a too passive given-up attitude, almost like permission to continue abusive politics.
 
Harold_Crick said:
9.5 million registered voters didn't turn out in 2019. If a third of that useless lot voted for anybody but the ANC they lose their 51% majority.
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Higher turnout usually favours them. If they voted it probably would have been for them. And let's be honest, it's better they stay away than swing to the EFF. There's no way they would swing to anyone meaningful as much as we want them to...
 
@Brian_G

failing and losing control is not the same thing, infact governments can become more authoritarian when they fail
 
Brian_G said:
Not really meaningful enough here, there's semi-illiterate people going to the polls and a number of different reasons why some would spoil their vote. It can also be seen as a too passive attitude, almost like permission to continue abusive politics.
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The problem is lack of voter education about how voting works.
No political party will ever encourage any voter to spoil their ballots, let alone stand and tolerate anyone who dares advocating for it.

Personally I think that every registered voter who doesn't end up voting for whatever reason, vote's should be counted as a spoiled ballot. Now that will shake up our political system.
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
Higher turnout usually favours them. If they voted it probably would have been for them. And let's be honest, it's better they stay away than swing to the EFF. There's no way they would swing to anyone meaningful as much as we want them to...
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The poor turnout is a sign of dissatisfaction/apathy, but these people are not achieving what they think they are.

In competitive democracies where win margins are so incredibly close (US elections) or coalitions are required (most of western Europe) to form a government, not voting to show dissatisfaction can work, but in the South African context all you are doing when you are p*ssed and not voting is helping to enable the status quo.
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
Sometimes it has to get worse before it gets better. If the foundation of a house is beyond repair, you need to break it down and build from scratch.

All those entrenched cadres everywhere need to go, but that leaves a massive gap in service delivery which isn't going to be filled overnight...
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Sadly, alot of people forget this.

If, the DA/EFF/IFP/ACDP who ever wins, even by a landslide,

shits going to take a while, and while its happening, ****all mkibile or what ever his name is, will constantly point it out,
 
ProfA said:
I will only vote if there is a party I can support. At the moment, there is NOT.
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Then you will never vote. No party is perfect. It's impossible that you will get one that will make you 100% or 90% happy.

Pull a name out of hat and vote for them
 
Mike Hoxbig said:
Higher turnout usually favours them. If they voted it probably would have been for them. And let's be honest, it's better they stay away than swing to the EFF. There's no way they would swing to anyone meaningful as much as we want them to...
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Many of those non-voters are in a much worse municipal condition now, a bad collapse of rural services is on-going (largely Carte Blanche sourcing) , so I believe they're behind much of the swing already. In KZN at least they're more likely to favour the familiar IFP then, where it counts.

Not discounting slightly-possibility EFF concerns, but they are really still very small, not the attitude most voters are looking up to then.
 
Brian_G said:
If you say so. So then you're seeing a total system collapse on the cards?
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central banks are printing money at a fast rate, bond market is failing, price increases are ubiquitous, and there are uprisings all across the world

I'm not sure how that can be sustainable
 
marbro said:
Sadly, alot of people forget this.

If, the DA/EFF/IFP/ACDP who ever wins, even by a landslide,

shits going to take a while, and while its happening, ****all mkibile or what ever his name is, will constantly point it out,
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Maybe not as bad if (where) the DA wins any province(s), they at least have practical experience.

And by then too late anyway, voting over..
 
It floors me that people have the power in their hands to change things collectively, but they couldn't be bothered to give it a try or to give another party a chance.
You literally have an example in front of you a better run province, even if only slightly, but you are not even willing to give them a chance, you would rather live in the same rot and corruption year after year...
and actually see this country ground into the dust under the ANC than use the power in your hands to bring about the one slight chance you have???
I cannot understand that ostrich head in the sand mentality. The blockhead logic just floors me....
 
Brian_G said:
Maybe not as bad if (where) the DA wins any province(s), they at least have practical experience.

And by then too late anyway, voting over..
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Even then it's going to take a long time. They got WC early, it's what helped in that province. Cadres elsewhere aren't going without a fight. They'll pull out the dirty tricks to make the place ungovernable...
 
Harmonic said:
Every single person who noted no is an idiot of the largest proportions. Vote or GFY with any complaints you may have about the state of SA
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I also noted no my bro. I think nowadays it's called cancel culture.
Sheesh, lots of hangers-on in this thread...
The trouble with hope is that it's futile.
Your beloved South Africa is gone... it's over. No coming back from how the ANC fukked it up.
 
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