Windfarms may have an effect on global warming

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LONDON: Large wind farms might have a warming effect on the local climate, research in the United States showed on Sunday, casting a shadow over the long-term sustainability of wind power.

Carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases from burning fossil fuels contribute to global warming, which could lead to the melting of glaciers, sea level rise, ocean acidification, crop failure and other devastating effects, scientists say.

In a move to cut such emissions, many nations are moving toward cleaner energy sources such as wind power.

The world’s wind farms last year had the capacity to produce 238 gigawatt of electricity at any one time. That was a 21 percent rise on 2010 and capacity is expected to reach nearly 500 gigawatt by the end of 2016 as more, and bigger, farms spring up, according to the Global Wind Energy Council.

Researchers at the State University of New York at Albany analyzed the satellite data of areas around large wind farms in Texas, where four of the world’s largest farms are located, over the period 2003 to 2011.

The results, published in the journal Nature Climate Change, showed a warming trend of up to 0.72 degrees Celsius per decade in areas over the farms, compared with nearby regions without the farms.

“We attribute this warming primarily to wind farms,” the study said. The temperature change could be due to the effects of the energy expelled by farms and the movement and turbulence generated by turbine rotors, it said.

“These changes, if spatially large enough, may have noticeable impacts on local to regional weather and climate,” the authors said.


MORE RESEARCH NEEDED

But the researchers said more studies were needed, at different locations and for longer periods, before any firm conclusions could be drawn.

Scientists say the world’s average temperature has warmed by about 0.8 degrees Celsius since 1900, and nearly 0.2 degrees per decade since 1979. Efforts to cut carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gas emissions are not seen as sufficient to stop the planet heating up beyond 2 degrees C this century, a threshold scientists say risks an unstable climate in which weather extremes are common.

The Texas study found the temperature around wind farms rose more at night, compared with nearby regions. This was possibly because while the earth usually cools after the sun sets, bringing the air temperature down, the turbulence produced by the farms kept the ground in their area warm.

Previous research in 2010 by other US scientists found wind farms could make the nights warmer and days cooler in their immediate vicinity, but those effects could be minimised by changing turbines’ rotor design or by building the farms in areas with high natural turbulence.

That research was based on evidence from two meteorological towers over a six-week period.

Although the warming effect shown in that study and the latest research is local, and small compared to overall land surface temperature change, the findings could lead to more in-depth studies.

The authors of the study released on Sunday said: “Given the present installed (wind farm) capacity and the projected installation across the world, this study draws attention to an important issue that requires further investigation.”

“We need to better understand the system with observations and better describe and model the complex processes involved to predict how wind farms may affect future weather and climate.”


Commenting on the study, Steven Sherwood, co-director of the Climate Change Research Center at the University of New South Wales in Australia, said: “Daytime temperatures do not appear to be affected. This makes sense, since at night the ground becomes much cooler than the air just a few hundred meters above the surface. The wind farms generate gentle turbulence near the ground that causes these to mix together, thus the ground doesn’t get quite as cool.”

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I have been very sceptical about wind energy, anything that turns with a motor in my books requires some sort of lubrication. That being said, we need to have more research done on this.

I guess Nuclear Power is the only way to go.

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http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=wind-farms-may-have-warming-effect
 
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How many turbines do you need to remove enough energy to actually affect local climate??
 
You will never make everyone happy... Frictionless magnetic bearings :-P Everything from mouse farts to lazers are all bad :D
 
Pretty sure that a cluster of wind farms will generate significantly less heat than a coal or nuclear site of the same generating capacity.

This study is the biggest pile I have ever read.
 
What about the effect on climate caused by removing a whole lot of kinetic energy from an air mass? Surely that on a large enough scale will cause changes and disruption?
 
Wind farms don't work - you still need to keep the conventional power stations running for when the wind isn't blowing.

That doesn't mean they don't work. The idea is not to have wind farms as the only source of electricity, but instead for it to contribute to a large array of methods to generate electricity in an environmental friendly manner. Obviously it contributes quite a bit, which means they serve their purpose well.
 
Pretty sure that a cluster of wind farms will generate significantly less heat than a coal or nuclear site of the same generating capacity.

This study is the biggest pile I have ever read.

How sure are you? To achieve the same outcome that a nuclear station has to achieve you're going to have to build a moer big windfarm. Nuclear Energy is also cheaper and a the amount of waste is a lot less than conventional coal farming. Just don't build the station on a fault line...
 
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I wonder if these "findings" have anything to do with Donald Trumps problems with the wind farm that is proposed to go up next to his golf course in Scotland.
 
Are nuclear plants killing 1000's of birds, bees, bats and insects?

This is a common argument put forward by many opponents of wind farms, however there are many more man made objects that do far more damage to the avian population.
Anthropogenic birds' mortality:

Causes......................... Annual Mortality Estimate
Building/ windows................550m
Cats...................................100m
High tension lines.................130m
Vehicles...............................80m
Pesticides.............................67m
Communication towers..........4.5m
Airplanes.............................25,000
Wind turbines......................28,500

A more recent study stated current wind energy developments are only responsible for 0.003 per cent of bird mortalities caused by anthropogenic activities (NRC, 2007).
http://www.wind-energy-the-facts.or...-2-environmental-impacts/onshore-impacts.html

High capacity turbines are a relatively recent commercial product. Consequently, any field study of "avian mortality" done on a wind farm constructed prior to approximately the year 2000 (maybe a bit later in the US) is inappropriate for estimating bird mortality based on modern turbine designs.

Whether by intent or because older studies are more common, opponents of wind power will have cited bird mortality data from studies done before 2000 and, to make their point, are likely to focus on studies done on wind turbines erected in high exposure situations: e.g. in migratory pathways, at mountain passes, near nesting areas, and so on. Those are the numbers that get quoted at public hearings, published in the media, and that therefore underlie the collective consciousness about wind turbine hazard to birds.
http://www.treehugger.com/renewable-energy/common-eco-myth-wind-turbines-kill-birds.html
 
Yeah. How many buildings are there in the world, compared to wind turbines? How many power lines?
 
And when a higher proportion of energy is produced by wind farms, will the same amount of birds, bees, bats and inspects be killed?

The figure may raise or lower, depending on the sighting of the wind farm, however as technology improves so will the power output of the turbines, (newer tubines bigger blades more surface/air contact slower revolution, easier for creatures to avoid) as explained in the second link of my original post.
There is also a lot of work being done on vertical wind turbines that are far safer for bird life etc than the current propeller design.
 
Anyone know the price of a 5/10kw wind turbine in SA? 6M pole preferred...
 
Is the heat generated not similar to an urban bubble? Same localized concept?
 
I dont think localized heat like this is a major contributor to global warming. Excess CO2 is the major cause.
 
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