Windows 10 is crap

Home or Pro?

I think it's daft of Microsoft to still do cut-down "Home" version. If/when I come across a machine with Home the first thing I do is install Pro.
 
meh, no real major issues with it, have niggles in all OS installations.

home and pro. hmm, know your user imo, not everyone needs pro.
 
Arthur said:
Home or Pro?

I think it's daft of Microsoft to still do cut-down "Home" version. If/when I come across a machine with Home the first thing I do is install Pro.
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Isn't the "Home" version for Grandma who uses her machine to look at knitting patterns and send mails, often to 419 scammers?
 
ArtyLoop said:
Isn't the "Home" version for Grandma who uses her machine to look at knitting patterns and send mails, often to 419 scammers?
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Hehe. About right.

I get the marketing reasons. And the sales reasons (setting a base price for a 'base' version allows one to justify more $ for a 'business' version, and even more for an 'enterprise' version.)

Yes, it's a big discussion, I realise. Probably more inside Msft than outside.

Back in the day, clients had one codebase. Developers, SEs, salespeople, and users could rely on learning, targeting and supporting one common platform.

I've never been a fan of functionally differentiated versions. In my view it introduces too many complexities and variables for both Msft (devs and support), ISVs, channel, and end-users (orgs, users, support staff, etc). There should just be One Windows, in my view. Enterprise stuff can be added on with an EnterprisePak, or sold as part of a separate deployment and device management tool.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
I must say, I have never experienced any issue with Windows 10 until the very recent update. All solved now, but still…

Oh, and that my one notebook doesn’t want to accept (or agree with) the OEM license ever since the Windows 8 upgrade to Windows 10. Silly, unresolved issue.
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Hi, did you do the update after they’d delayed it. I haven’t switched mine off since 8 October as I’m too scared the update will lose my documents. Did you have any problems?
 
Quey_Quick said:
I wish I was allowed to use Ubuntu at work, they are in MS pockets so they won't budge. They only recently started allowing Mac.
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Yeh, it seem to be an option for companies. Chromebook for home users and Macs for corporates.
Or agree to Linux.
 
pedruid said:
Hi, did you do the update after they’d delayed it. I haven’t switched mine off since 8 October as I’m too scared the update will lose my documents. Did you have any problems?
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I didn't experience that exact issue, not on any device when updating to 1809. However, one device, a Samsung Notebook, had the same issue as some HP devices when updating to 1809, which was Windows-driver related.
 
On a related note has Microsoft Edge ever actually worked longer than 5 minutes for anyone?

Seriously I've tried this piece of crap a few times now, especially after major Windows Updates and across different systems and VM's and what not and every single time it just doesn't work.

Either it loads blank pages, or it stalls or it juts outright crashes and doesn't load again.

The joke of "just to download Google Chrome" doesn't even apply because most of the time I can't even get that far and need to open up IE.
 
Quey_Quick said:
I wish I was allowed to use Ubuntu at work, they are in MS pockets so they won't budge. They only recently started allowing Mac.
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Oh how I dream of the day they will allow bring your own device in this office.

I will promptly run off and buy a Mac with my own bloody money to make the pain and trauma of Windows and this HP piece of **** go away.
 
ArtyLoop said:
My experience with Windows 10 (aside from numerous issues with technical software that runs fine on Windows 7 and 8)

It is EXTREMELY SLOW- All attempts to remedy this failed. More RAM... SSD, nothing helped. In the end I installed Ubuntu 16.04 and ran that for a few months and then I was fortunate enough to get a request in for a Macbook Pro and that was approved.

Previous experiences at other companies was even worse. In those cases I ran a dual boot scenario... did the necessary Windoze stuff in Windows 7 Pro, did everything else in Ubuntu.
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Ubuntu is faster than W7 as well in my experience.

W10 is faster than W7 on the same machine, no doubt. The interface though, Windows 7 can be faster. I still use Start10 to get the old start menu.
 
SauRoNZA said:
On a related note has Microsoft Edge ever actually worked longer than 5 minutes for anyone?

Seriously I've tried this piece of crap a few times now, especially after major Windows Updates and across different systems and VM's and what not and every single time it just doesn't work.

Either it loads blank pages, or it stalls or it juts outright crashes and doesn't load again.

The joke of "just to download Google Chrome" doesn't even apply because most of the time I can't even get that far and need to open up IE.
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I use Edge on desktops, laptops, and mobile. Works fine. Fast. No issues whatsoever, though 1709 did occasionally render some PDFs less than optimally (fixed in 1803) - which wasn't really an issue as I maar use Adobe Reader.

I'm perplexed by why you have these issues with Edge. Must be something peculiar in your config...?
 
Arthur said:
I use Edge on desktops, laptops, and mobile. Works fine. Fast. No issues whatsoever, though 1709 did occasionally render some PDFs less than optimally (fixed in 1803) - which wasn't really an issue as I maar use Adobe Reader.

I'm perplexed by why you have these issues with Edge. Must be something peculiar in your config...?
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That’s the thing it’s not even a singular config.

I experience it across many installs and many systems both clean or long in use it always fails me so badly within a few minutes that even when open to try it i simply can’t.

On mobile it’s fine but then that doesn’t ask much and is somewhat irrelevant.
 
That's miserable.

I've had Edge as default browser for about 18 months now, also on a multitude of devices old and new. Multiple instances with multiple tabs, rock solid, day in day out. Only use Chrome for the cloud accounting and to access the MLT inverter's portal. All other browsing, incl this session, is with Edge. The Read mode is especially useful on phone.

Ah well. At least there's choice, thank goodness.
 
Btw, anyone using a touch screen, do use Edge for your PDF and not e.g. Adobe/FF/Chrome, it is noticeably less laggy, no matter how high end your laptop is.
 
Johnatan56 said:
Btw, anyone using a touch screen, do use Edge for your PDF and not e.g. Adobe/FF/Chrome, it is noticeably less laggy, no matter how high end your laptop is.
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I always forget my XPS has a touchscreen, I think my OCD doesn't like the idea of smear marks on the screen
 
reactor_sa said:
I always forget my XPS has a touchscreen, I think my OCD doesn't like the idea of smear marks on the screen
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Yeah, I don't like using touch screens either on desktops tbh, but it can come useful for quick interactions.
 
I had multiple issues on clients machine on a new Dell laptop with the 1803 update - one of which was the hidden recovery partition became visible and constant "low disk space" messages popped up - hid partition again with "DISKPART". Subsequent updates remedied this and my practice is to defer new major build installs until there are a few updates to it.
Other problems were snail slowness due to 100% disk usage due to background tasks and his spreadsheets that he ran from flash drive were virtually unusable.
He smashed the screen in frustration - fortunately Dell Techie on Next Business Day Warranty came round to repair it at the cost of the 2.2 K screen (refurbished while 3rd party was around 1.4k).
Just metered connection now to avoid potential crap.
I don't bother with Edge - FF and Chrome.
 
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