Windows 10: The Next Chapter

Arthur said:
The enterprise move to W10 will only get underway in 2016 or 2017.
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I think they can move even quicker, as you don't have to wait for Service Pack 1 anymore, like previously. :)

There will be more frequent updates, which will enable Microsoft to release software updates/patches much quicker.

For now it's only consumers who will get a free copy of Windows 10 if they upgrade within one year of the release date, but I'm sure Microsoft will offer their corporate customers similar deals.

The new Microsoft is definitely not the old rigid one that we've been so used to for so long.
 
Virtualbox doesn't want to know anything about this.

Error claims to mean VT-X isn't enabled in the BIOS, but it sure as damn well is.
 
kingrob said:
I think they can move even quicker, as you don't have to wait for Service Pack 1 anymore, like previously. :)

There will be more frequent updates, which will enable Microsoft to release software updates/patches much quicker.

For now it's only consumers who will get a free copy of Windows 10 if they upgrade within one year of the release date, but I'm sure Microsoft will offer their corporate customers similar deals.

The new Microsoft is definitely not the old rigid one that we've been so used to for so long.
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I hope you are right.

This Windows 7 is killing me.

But sounds like they'll jump straight from 7 to 10.
 
kingrob said:
For now it's only consumers who will get a free copy of Windows 10 if they upgrade within one year of the release date, but I'm sure Microsoft will offer their corporate customers similar deals.
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I still wanna know if as a win7 user they will allow me to dl a win10 iso & install from scratch or do I have to install win7 first and the upgrade? kinda like that 8.0-8.1 crap.
 
ponder said:
I still wanna know if as a win7 user they will allow me to dl a win10 iso & install from scratch or do I have to install win7 first and the upgrade? kinda like that 8.0-8.1 crap.
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I suspect it will be like that, but I'm hoping it won't be.

Just like Windows 8 where you had to upgrade via the Store, which sucked donkey balls.
 
They haven't said. Probably a Store or Win Update. But the new msft is full of surprises. They're so keen to move everyone onto Win10 I won't be surprised if they turn a blind eye to unorthodox upgrades.
 
bekdik said:
Here's something to try:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2881...hidden-powerful-godmode-tool.html#tk.nl_today
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Ah, the first comment on that page actually explains why God mode is still there, as I can find everything via Search or Notifications > All Settings. :)

For those asking "why does this exist"? It's used by Windows Search when you start typing on the start screen (Win8) or in the search box at the bottom of the start menu (Win7/10) to bring up common admin tasks.
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kingrob said:
If you've done your homework, you would know that none of the big companies, i.e. Dell, migrated to Windows 8.

Which is embarrassing, cos they say on their web site they recommend Windows 8, but their own company is running on Windows 7.

I don't expect you to understand it, it's fine.

Have you eaten less today?
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Eh? Dell is using 8.1 internally on all their new hardware. Also Dell has a tiny staff count compared to a lot of other companies.

One of the largest companies in the world has standardized on 8.1 for new hardware and 7 for current machines. We're talking 200,000+ endpoints...
 
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Let's not get sidetracked into silly number wars. Windows 10 might RTM as early as late June.

And the phone version Insider could be here this week. My 1520 is primed and poised.
 
Arthur said:
Let's not get sidetracked into silly number wars. Windows 10 might RTM as early as late June.

And the phone version Insider could be here this week. My 1520 is primed and poised.
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Not getting side tracked, but saying that 8.x was skipped by enterprise simply isn't true and is made up in someone's head that doesn't like 8.x

Super exited for 10 though
 
grim said:
Eh? Dell is using 8.1 internally on all their new hardware. Also Dell has a tiny staff count compared to a lot of other companies.

One of the largest companies in the world has standardized on 8.1 for new hardware and 7 for current machines. We're talking 200,000+ endpoints...
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Very interesting & then I must stand corrected if the whole world's corporates have migrated to Windows 8.

And a very costly exercise indeed, as you're migrating to Windows 8, with support ending within two years for it, then you have to migrate to Windows 8.1, which is another big project. And now Windows 10 is around the corner.

Any sources to substantiate your claim that corporate have all moved over to Windows 8?

**Here's some links and Dell's proxy filing that mentions slow Windows 8 Enterprise uptake :

Dell Prilimanary Proxy filing
ComputerWorld article
ReadWrite article mentioning KACE study from Dell
 
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kingrob said:
Very interesting & then I must stand corrected if the whole world's corporates have migrated to Windows 8.

And a very costly exercise indeed, as you're migrating to Windows 8, with support ending within two years for it, then you have to migrate to Windows 8.1, which is another big project. And now Windows 10 is around the corner.

Any sources to substantiate your claim that corporate have all moved over to Windows 8?

**Here's some links and Dell's proxy filing that mentions slow Windows 8 Enterprise uptake :

Dell Prilimanary Proxy filing
ComputerWorld article
ReadWrite article mentioning KACE study from Dell
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Nowhere did I say they are migrating current machines to 8.x, I said on NEW hardware. It's just easier and cheaper to slowly move over as hardware is replaced than to run around upgrading old machines, Windows 10 is also going to have this problem initially. The only reason some companies moved off XP on their old machines is because all support for it ended last year, if it ain't broke...

Yes, the uptake has been slow as there is no incentive to move old machines onto 8.x, Windows 7 SP1 is still in extended support until 2020, mainstream support for it ended last month, 8 is in mainstream support until 2017 and extended support until 2022, 8.1 is 2018 and 2023.

Win 8 had slightly more market share than 7 after it's first full year on sale, after that it has slowed down though but 7's market share has started to decline in the past couple of months, it's been 8 years since XP started to decline in usage and it still won't die. Companies and people just aren't replacing machines every three years any more, they are waiting for them to break before replacing them, a 5 year old machine handles general office use just fine, why spend money to replace it?
 
Supporting all these legacy systems is an absolute nightmare for Microsoft.

Which is a reason why it's so keen to move the world to Win10 as soon as possible. Hence the free consumer upgrades for Win7 and 8x.

Remember, the consumer Windows is not a very big part of the Windows business. The retail end has been negligibly miniscule for ages, and MSFT only keeps out alive as a service and to avoid the PR howl.

Enterprises should have contracts in place anyway, and the MSFT sales teams focus is on ensuring volume licensing and maintenance (MSFT call it Software Assurance) are in place. That will take care of the Win10 upgrades in enterprise,v which are much more paced for obvious reasons.

The bigger challenge to business and to MSFT in enterprise is the way MSFT purposes to update Win 10 in future. Their first choice is to do it directly, ie open enterprise PCs directly to MS Update. It will take years to get that underway, maybe even a decade or more. But the plans are there. In the meantime, staged and selective updates are supported, as always. They understand their customers here.

WaaS doesn't have anything to do with subscription services, despite even the recent Windows 365 trademark registration. It's simply the move away from big bang versions to continually streamed updates as they appear.

Common platform. Common code base. Common APIs. Common services. Universal apps (aka WinRT).
 
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