Windows 7 a Linux killer?

Tweak said:
I can feel the frustration here from alot of windows users. Where linux allows you to fix your own problems, windows users can only complain about theirs. Lol no wonder they are so vocal in this topic xD
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I dont have any problems so I dont need to fix anything, Though I do fix many windows problems daily. 99% of those errors turn out to be users errors. I'd like to take them and put them in a linux course... and then die laughin when they mess even that up, and say.. but windows never did this... WTF is going on here
 
Kalvaer said:
I dont have any problems so I dont need to fix anything, Though I do fix many windows problems daily. 99% of those errors turn out to be users errors. I'd like to take them and put them in a linux course... and then die laughin when they mess even that up, and say.. but windows never did this... WTF is going on here
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i can't imagine what could go wrong with a static linux install - from an OS point of view.

from my experience of using XP and Linux (many distros), I find that the kind of things that did cause BSODs in XP never did in Linux. The kind of thing I do on my P4 2.667GHz with 1GB (at the same time):

Watch TV using my Winfast TV2000XP Expert
Play Football Manager 2008 (FM) via Wine (Medium Database/ Eng,Ita,Spa,Hol)
Surf the net (FF)
Mail Client (Evolution)

While doing that I can:
Download
And while downloading, can extract files

During this process neither FM nor the TV suffers. I cannot do this on the same computer using XP SP2 or SP3.
 
saa044 said:
Yeah I saw that Cedega 7 is out now, apparently works good with a couple of direct x games. But that being said, as I understand it OpenGl games like DoomIII for instance or any other game designed for Windows that works great on Linux is a added bonus, but they were designed to play on windows pc's, so ppl trying to get a certain windows product to work on Linux and they cant get it to work should not blame Ubuntu for that, as it still is a windows application/Game. So if you can not part from you windows applications or find a alternative in the Ubunte library then just stick with windows. :)
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You wanna play games, get play station...

You wanna do something constructive, get linux.
 
smokey said:
- most people (IE: not you) prefer to let others sort out their tech problems instead of actually figuring it out by themselves.
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And letting others sort out their problems, brings in business for me. I find I support less of my linux clients though than i do my windows clients... they just seem to have endless headaches...

smokey said:
It's because they have non-tech related jobs or just couldnt be bothered because they actually like sunshine.
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Sunshine = Cancer = Death
Give me flourescent lighting

smokey said:
It doesnt mean that theyu shoudl be excluded by the fact that Linux requires most installs to be done ina totally absurd way.
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System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager = Everything I ever need...
 
schurtek said:
And letting others sort out their problems, brings in business for me. I find I support less of my linux clients though than i do my windows clients... they just seem to have endless headaches...
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Be honest now though, How many of your linux clients are at least a tiny but tech savy, compared to your windows clients?
 
milomak said:
During this process neither FM nor the TV suffers. I cannot do this on the same computer using XP SP2 or SP3.
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Granted.. but why would you want to watch TV, play a game (which btw IMHO FM 2008 is not), browse the net, while emailing at the same time.

Multi-tasking I can understand, but nobody can watch, play and browse at the same time, unless you have 3 monitors, 4 hands, and 15 eyes, and no intention of actually knowing whats going on
 
Have to say installing W7 on my AAO was an absolute breeze (as compared to Ubuntu).
 
Kalvaer said:
Be honest now though, How many of your linux clients are at least a tiny but tech savy, compared to your windows clients?
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Um... why would a tech savy user pay me for a support contract? Even my mother who is 59 this year, is driving Ubuntu like there is no windows...
 
Kalvaer said:
Granted.. but why would you want to watch TV, play a game (which btw IMHO FM 2008 is not), browse the net, while emailing at the same time.

Multi-tasking I can understand, but nobody can watch, play and browse at the same time, unless you have 3 monitors, 4 hands, and 15 eyes, and no intention of actually knowing whats going on
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The fact is that I do.
 
milomak said:
The fact is that I do.
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LOL

I have a similiar situation... I use virtualbox, web browser on one screen and on another screen I run MythTV, I mostly listen to the TV while using Virtualbox and my PC does not break a sweat. When I tried this on Vista my system would chew up ram considerably and on Win7 I got a BSOD.
 
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One or two things yes.. not 4 or 5. I used to play WoW while browing on the other monitor for instance tips and maps while running through new area's while playing my own music and using Ventrilo to talk... never had a problem on Windows ?
 
Mark Shuttleworth Strikes the Right Tone On Windows 7

http://www.workswithu.com/2009/01/25/mark-shuttleworth-strikes-the-right-tone-on-windows-7/

Mark Shuttleworth Strikes the Right Tone On Windows 7
by Joe Panettieri

Some people are scratching their heads over recent Windows 7-related comments attributed to Canonical CEO Mark Shuttleworth. But Shuttleworth’s words provide an important reminder that innovation and competition from Microsoft will help to propel Ubuntu and Linux forward. Skeptical? Read on.

Speaking with The Register, Shuttleworth apparently gave Microsoft a pat on the back for its Windows 7 efforts, and he declined to bash the forthcoming successor to Windows Vista.

Was Shuttleworth really “praising” Windows 7? I think not. Rather, I think Shuttleworth was stating that healthy competition drives IT innovation. And an innovative, motivated Microsoft is good for Linux.
The Threat From Within

Indeed, the biggest threat to Linux is arrogance rather than Microsoft. I hear from more and more Ubuntu and Linux converts who say the operating system is now good enough for the masses.

In some cases that’s certainly true. My oldest sons (ages 10 and eight) made the leap to Ubuntu without any “training.” Their conversion occurred when I purchased a Dell desktop with Ubuntu in mid-2007. I didn’t mention that it wasn’t a Windows device. They immediately figured out Firefox and OpenOffice and were off to the races. No training. No hassle.

Still, Linux fans have to remember that the vast majority of consumers and small business owners still have never heard of the operating system. And if they are familiar with Linux, they consider it a server system for corporate IT managers.

Now here’s the ironic twist: When Microsoft ships Windows 7 in late 2009 or early 2010, the news will actually raise Linux’s profile on desktops and netbooks.

As PC vendors evaluate Windows 7’s pricing, they’ll scour the market for lower-cost options or simply embrace Linux on a few systems to gain pricing leverage when they negotiate Windows 7 licensing terms with Microsoft.

Similarly, the mainstream media — yes, even outlets like The Wall Street Journal and BusinessWeek — will mention Linux alternatives as they review Windows 7. Trust me: this is going to happen.

Generally speaking, Windows 7’s launch will be an industry inflection point for customers. And when customers are trying to make a purchase/upgrade decision they consider multiple directions.

That’s good news for Ubuntu and the broader Linux desktop movement, and Shuttleworth knows it. Today, he’s killing Microsoft with kindness. But when Windows 7 arrives, I’m sure he’ll strike a much more aggressive tone.
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Shuttleworth's Original Comments here
 
Slootvreter said:
Jeesus what the hell kind of answer is this! Who wants to go through roughly 5 lines of code in a command console to install an app?
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sudo apt-get install <insert_name_of_app_here>

Now I ain't no fancy mathmaticist with no book-learnin' or nothin' but HOOWEY that there command sure looks a darn lot less than "roughly 5 lines of code". Now if ya'll excuse me I'm gonna go tie me down a hog!! YEEHAW!!
 
Rouxenator said:
That is very [-]user friendly[/-] secure.
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The only reason you see all these console commands in Linux tutorials is because the different distros do things differently in the GUI, but the command line is usually the same.

Most of these command line commands can be done through a very userfriendly GUI.
 
porchrat said:
sudo apt-get install <insert_name_of_app_here>

Now I ain't no fancy mathmaticist with no book-learnin' or nothin' but HOOWEY that there command sure looks a darn lot less than "roughly 5 lines of code". Now if ya'll excuse me I'm gonna go tie me down a hog!! YEEHAW!!
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WRONG!!! That is five lines of code, if you work for Microsoft... remember the infamous time remaining in MS copy/download dialog. 5 is a smaller number than 1 but still bigger than 836409821421304809321754321054093214E3874364
 
I like Windows a lot more than linux. Dont have problems with drivers and can play all my games
 
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