Total lack of real world experience here.
XP still is better than Vista and Windows 7 is better than Vista. I am not sure if Windows 7 is better than XP yet, but it is way better than Vista.
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Total lack of real world experience here.
XP still is better than Vista and Windows 7 is better than Vista. I am not sure if Windows 7 is better than XP yet, but it is way better than Vista.
killadoob
Honorary Master
Lack of experience in what? xp vista or windows 7?
SirFooK'nG
Executive Member
Total lack of real world experience here.
XP still is better than Vista and Windows 7 is better than Vista. I am not sure if Windows 7 is better than XP yet, but it is way better than Vista.
Curious to know how you can explicitly anounce a statement like that? How did you base that argument?
The thing with Vista and Win7 is, that it will give you crap if your machine is slow. That is why alot of people think Vista and Win7 is bad, as their machines can't handle it. When using at least 1GB of RAM, Vista will perform not too bad, but anything more than 1GB will make Vista / Win7 work like a dream... That is one way to improve your Vista / Win7 experience positively...
15 years working experience? Having to deal with thousands of machines at a time that needed to be down graded from vista to xp? Dealing with corporates and education institutes on a daily basis?
Im sure its great for the kiddie gaming machine, but in the real world its a flop on big networks (which is where most PC`s end up). (Pricing.. ie it costs more to run Vista than it does to run XP..in hardware and software /Compatibility problems with current custom applications that most big institutions run)
Im not going to get into a gay XP vs Vista debate with you.. if you think its rocks.. then yay! Buy it and play on it. I really dont give a ****e. Vista supporters make as much sense as Mac supporters.
SirFooK'nG
Executive Member
That all fine, and I'm not going to sit and debate either, but you can't just say that one's personal experience with his machine is bull cause you have had troubles. I've been in the game way too long to not realise that 90% of all problems are from user.stupid!
SirFooK'nG
Executive Member
Ive had troubles? Reread my post, this has got fkall to do with my personal experience mate... but everything to do with business experience.
Allright, I'm sure that the boys at MS run all their networks on XP cause the IT guys couldn't get the servers to see the clients or what ever. They would never use Vista on their tiny little network?!? You win
killadoob
Honorary Master
Total lack of real world experience here.
XP still is better than Vista and Windows 7 is better than Vista. I am not sure if Windows 7 is better than XP yet, but it is way better than Vista.
well you don't think vista is better plus your biased and hate vista regardless of what it can do, so what you think does not matter due to the fact you put vista down just because of what everyone says. Vista sure is not good on older pc's but new faster systems it rocks end of story. So if you mean vista is bad because it is slow on slow computers then yes i agree but you have worked on thousands of pc's yet claim it sucks as an operating system.
Anyone who has run vista on a decent computer and says its worse than xp is biased and a vista hater. Yes this is a fact!!!
You will hate windows 7 because its exactly like vista with a few nice changes. Xp is such a shocking OS and unstable to the max and requires plenty maintain to ensure it runs smooth.
you should stay out of windows vista and 7 threads as your totally biased towards linux if you ask me and will put down vista just because you hate microsoft
. Windows 7 is the best OS on the market by a mile, the fact you have not yet tested windows 7 makes me question your thousands of pc's you have downgraded because anyone in that kind of work would have tested and would get to know windows 7 before it's release.
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Allright, I'm sure that the boys at MS run all their networks on XP cause the IT guys couldn't get the servers to see the clients or what ever. They would never use Vista on their tiny little network?!? You win
Removed silly insult.
In the real world you have a university. On a tight budget.. as most educational institutes are. They have customized software that manages their students, the student fee`s, their lodgings, their food, the security.. whatever a university needs. Now you have many different departments within a university.. most with their own IT budget allocations.
Now their customized software fails to run 100% on Vista.. even with really expensive consultants from around the country looking into it.. but say.. for the sake of argument.. they do get it running. Now the university has to fork out tens of millions to upgrade all the hardware on their network so all the machines, and all the network printers, and servers, and client software packages can all run on vista. The hardware costs of Vista are way higher than that of XP.. as its a badly written resource hog. It requires good hardware to perform.
Remember now that these same networks still run machines that have being running for over 10 years because of budget restraints. Are you ganna for out all the money to upgrade all the university networks? Or do you think the university is going to go with what works and whats costs efficient to them?
At the end of the day.. Mrs Icometowork is still going to be doing the SAME tasks (excel, word, email and perhaps some books software) on her brand spanking new expensive Vista rig, than she would be doing on her 8 year old XP rig. So what benefits would her company or education institute for the cost of upgrading her system? It wont be better productivity..
I understand you see the world from the "ma and pop" PC techie perspective. And I am sure you have loads of experience in something.. but its not in the average large South African corporate or education institute. This is shown by using MS as an example to a Vista compliant network.
Im sure there are some people who can afford larger networks and better machines, and I am sure they do. However, I know the banks dont though.. I know Telkom or Eskom havent done it either (by this I mean upgrade their entire network to be Vista compliant).
There is a reason most business has dodged the Vista bullet and has waited for W7. Its cause its not worth it.
Have you ever sat in places like Tarsus and watched 2000 notebooks all arrive with Vista.. and then watch them (at a cost to the company of R150 per machine to the business who sent them in)).. ALL get downgraded to XP.
Those business`s must just like throwing their money away on downgrading systems?
Im sure Vista makes a great gaming platform for you. Its got cool stuff like DX10.. and other gadgets. Enjoy it. Its right for you.
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well you don't think vista is better plus your biased and hate vista regardless of what it can do, so what you think does not matter due to the fact you put vista down just because of what everyone says. Vista sure is not good on older pc's but new faster systems it rocks end of story. So if you mean vista is bad because it is slow on slow computers then yes i agree but you have worked on thousands of pc's yet claim it sucks as an operating system.
Anyone who has run vista on a decent computer and says its worse than xp is biased and a vista hater. Yes this is a fact!!!
You will hate windows 7 because its exactly like vista with a few nice changes. Xp is such a shocking OS and unstable to the max and requires plenty maintain to ensure it runs smooth.
you should stay out of windows vista and 7 threads as your totally biased towards linux if you ask me and will put down vista just because you hate microsoft
You almost always get it wrong and your lack of logic makes you foolish which is why I have trouble taking you seriously. Writing this post from my windows 7 desktop. Glad you have learnt punctuation and a little grammar since we last chatted. I dont see you as a teen anymore.
killadoob
Honorary Master
See how angry you get wizard, i think you need to chill out buddie. i am sure when windows xp was released and cost money that your above example was a major problem as well, the custom 98 software did not work and laptops came with xp on that were kuk slow but we all forget about that hey, we all forget how poor the driver support and how poor xp was before sp1.
Your biased and hate vista and thus should not ever comment on it as your not objective. Your above example is exactly what happened to the amazing xp but it survived and thrived purely because there were not thousands of people like you spreading the word on how poor vista is, vista never had a chance with the guys like you around.
you have windows 7 running and your questioning if it is better than xp, this is my point, your running windows 7 and questioning it, when the entire world who has run it say it is. Biased and boring go chat with your friends who give a shyte about punctuation on a forum . We never chat bud i always call you out for your vista hating ways, biased and boring like i said. Format and go back to xp dude windows 7 sucks hey?
Your biased and hate vista and thus should not ever comment on it as your not objective. Your above example is exactly what happened to the amazing xp but it survived and thrived purely because there were not thousands of people like you spreading the word on how poor vista is, vista never had a chance with the guys like you around.
you have windows 7 running and your questioning if it is better than xp, this is my point, your running windows 7 and questioning it, when the entire world who has run it say it is
. Biased and boring go chat with your friends who give a shyte about punctuation on a forum . We never chat bud i always call you out for your vista hating ways, biased and boring like i said. Format and go back to xp dude windows 7 sucks hey?
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I am also still in the testing of Win7, and so far so good...! I personally think that when judging an operating system and claiming if it is good or not, must not be based on personal likings / dislikings, but be based on facts claimed by MAJOR industries specialising in these kind of tests... Personal experience is not a bad thing, but someone else might have got 1000s of positive comments on an OS, and someone else only 1 or 2 bad comments, which still doesn't make an OS bad...
Personally I agree to the fact that Microsoft won't bring out an OS, if it doesn't comply to international standards, including networking standards, etc...
Personally I agree to the fact that Microsoft won't bring out an OS, if it doesn't comply to international standards, including networking standards, etc...
See my last post to you.. it hasnt changed.
SirFooK'nG
Executive Member
You just proved what I was saying anyway, so thanks for that long, very explanatory speech on how S.A companies are behind on technology. Stop throwing your toys out over the OS, it's not the root of your problems. Vista has not failed ... the sh**e software you try run on it did...
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killadoob
Honorary Master
Wizard like i said you commenting on vista or windows 7 is as bad as you commenting on my gramma and punctuation when you know i am right you always go on about the same kuk.
Your old and boring now, actually you have been since the day you put vista down. Go chat with your xp and linux buddies about how poor it is and leave us to discuss windows vista/7 objectively.
Your old and boring now, actually you have been since the day you put vista down. Go chat with your xp and linux buddies about how poor it is and leave us to discuss windows vista/7 objectively.
You do know you lie a lot? Like you just lied _again_.. to yourself about what I think. Sorry dude.. read two posts back.. my opinion still hasnt changed.
Incase you missed it the last time I mentioned. Im running Windows 7 (I actually think I had it up and running before you did).. and its a nice OS (its like a clean Vista). Stop lying, learn something and then we can chat
killadoob
Honorary Master
Yes it has not and we still do not give a shyte about your opinion.