Windows 7 to ship with Internet Explorer

Microsoft said it had abandoned plans to strip IE from the package to avoid breaching EU competition rules, but would instead present customers with a "ballot" option, allowing them to choose whether to install IE or another browser.
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Okay, so its not first prize but I'll take this over what we are stuck with at the moment. I have tried to remove IE from XP but M$ have made it a minefield to navigate!
 
What about programs that require Internet Explorer to function?
Another download that's useless.
MS should only remove the links/shortcuts.
 
If users choose to opt out, how will they install another browser?
Most browsers need to be downloaded. How will users do this if they don't have a browser?
Or is W7 coming with Firefox on the disk?:rolleyes:
 
TimTDP said:
If users choose to opt out, how will they install another browser?
Most browsers need to be downloaded. How will users do this if they don't have a browser?
Or is W7 coming with Firefox on the disk?:rolleyes:
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Funny how many people don't realise this. To download another browser, you need a current browser installed.
 
If Firefox comes on the disk, that will be brilliant. I can see FF taking a lot of market share
 
Microsoft said it had abandoned plans to strip IE from the package to avoid breaching EU competition rules, but would instead present customers with a "ballot" option, allowing them to choose whether to install IE or another browser.
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Carbon_Fibre said:
If Firefox comes on the disk, that will be brilliant. I can see FF taking a lot of market share
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So all the other browsers are expected to piggyback on Microsoft's OS? Free marketing for them at Microsoft's expense? :rolleyes: Next battle: Which browsers to include.

Microsoft includes IE with Windows...woe is me, the end is neigh. Just download and install the browser you want and use it.
 
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Slootvreter said:
So all the other browsers are expected to piggyback on Microsoft's OS? Free marketing for them at Microsoft's expense? :rolleyes: Next battle: Which browsers to include.

Microsoft includes IE with Windows...woe is me, the end is neigh. Just download and install the browser you want and use it.
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Ya spot on man.

I cannot believe the fuss made about a browser.
 
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Ah yes, that's exactly what Europeans wanted all along: governments telling people how to design and market software. Closet fascists must be delighted.
 
Arthur said:
Ah yes, that's exactly what Europeans wanted all along: governments telling people how to design and market software. Closet fascists must be delighted.
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As a closet fascists who knows in practice what life under real oppression is like and not imagined oppression and who sees monopoly abuse for what it is - I welcome any measure which forces MS to comply with local laws.
 
M$ thought themselves above the law.

Which is wrong, and this sort of attitude stifles competition, and encourages monopolistic practices.
 
The_Librarian said:
M$ thought themselves above the law.

Which is wrong, and this sort of attitude stifles competition, and encourages monopolistic practices.
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Be that as it may, why should they provide the user with a menu of browsers to install? Free advertising and promotion for smaller companies? I'd like to see Google being forced to provide a link to Safari and IE, and not only their own Chrome.
 
lcbxx said:
Funny how many people don't realise this. To download another browser, you need a current browser installed.
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That might be a problem if:
a) you cant find and use the FTP client let alone figure out how to get to a command prompt.
b) you have absolutely no idea where to download your browser of choice.
 
PeterCH said:
As a closet fascists who knows in practice what life under real oppression is like and not imagined oppression and who sees monopoly abuse for what it is - I welcome any measure which forces MS to comply with local laws.
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Yes, we always wanted to live in a society with 'local laws' about what browsers people can bundle with their operating systems. The Europeans have flirted with tyranny for centuries, and it's incipient...

BTW, Microsoft broke no such laws. The 'findings' are ex post facto. The EC 'findings' about anti-competitive practices are immoral and unjust. It's not just me - several EC commissioners throught the same. We've covered this ground before, so I won't be drawn further. I guess it comes down to what you think governments are for. Ever read "Atlas Shrugged"?

Edit: As for tyranny - yes this is not repression for most people, just Microsoft. But that's how it starts. There's an important principle at stake. Remember the song about "They came for the Negroes, I said/did nothing ... Jews ... Catholics ... me".

Back to topic.
 
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Be that as it may, why should they provide the user with a menu of browsers to install?
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Because the browser should in no way be connected to the OS because they are two separate products, therefore one should not be allowed to unfairly piggyback off another. You either let all of them piggyback off the OS or none of them, Microsoft chose the "all of them" option, end of story. This is not facism, this is government trying to stop MS using it's position of dominance in the OS market to give it's browser an unfair advantage. As South Africans we of all people should understand what it is like to live with a market in which unfair collusion etc. is not stopped by the government (South African banks anyone?)

Jeez how many times do people need to say this before it gets through on MyBB?

Free advertising and promotion for smaller companies? I'd like to see Google being forced to provide a link to Safari and IE, and not only their own Chrome.
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When ChromeOS becomes available they may very well have to (well they won't have to for IE because that won't run on ChromeOS), but right now Google doesn't have an OS to provide "Free advertising and promotion for smaller companies" :rolleyes:
 
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