I just tested - I can make Win7 die on any PC by pressing Alt-F7 while running one of the packaged applications (my secret - tested on 4 pc's now - windows just dies completely and you have to restart)
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MadMailMan
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Congratulations on being the first person to crash Windows. 
The boot up process is dependent on hard drives unparking themselves and on the access and trasnfer speed of your hard drive. Adding in more CPU horsepower won't make it boot faster - unless you're using an SSD.
To really speed up the boot, you need an SSD.
DJNgoma
Expert Member
Straight to the point, increasing the amount of cores wont increase the boot up as it set to use all of them by default. Myth 101.
Source: Lifehacker
Source: Lifehacker
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killadoob
Honorary Master
Why would using an ssd boot up faster with more cores but a normal drive would not?
Makes very little sense.
Also i must admit when i had a e8400 and i changed to a q9550, i test the boot up time and without a doubt the q9550 booted my pc about 4-5 seconds faster.
e8400 clock for clock is faster.
The bottleneck is the hardrive, first it has to initialise and unpark, and then it has to load all the stuff up. A mechanical harddrive will take longer to initialise/unpark then a solid memory device. All this time the CPU is idling. Then the data has to be read off, especially from random locations - random read. For that a better SSD will be better than those cheap SSDs.
CPU may help you but only if your CPU is substandard.
Not everything is CPU dependent too - the IO is not and the device polling isn't either - prolly more chipset dependent and quality of component dependent/firmware etc.
My Intel Atom 1.86 with its Toshiba 64GB SSD boots up Windows faster than a Quad Core Extreme i7 with a HDD.
killadoob
Honorary Master
No your are basically saying that a ssd will not boot up faster with more cores but a normal hdd would boot up with more cores.
I fully understand that a ssd boots up faster i do not understand your comment that more cores would make a ssd boot faster than less cores but with a normal hdd it would not help to have more cores.
Anyways does not matter i am sure it was just a typo or mis understanding on my part.
Also cheap or expensive SSD both have the same seek time so i do not agree a cheap one will boot slower, the difference between a cheap and expensive ssd is the R/W bandwidth not the seek time and i highly doubt booting up windows uses more than 80mb/s so a cheap SSd will boot up as fast as an expensive one due to having the same seek time but slower R/W.
I fully understand that a ssd boots up faster i do not understand your comment that more cores would make a ssd boot faster than less cores but with a normal hdd it would not help to have more cores.
Anyways does not matter i am sure it was just a typo or mis understanding on my part.
Also cheap or expensive SSD both have the same seek time so i do not agree a cheap one will boot slower, the difference between a cheap and expensive ssd is the R/W bandwidth not the seek time and i highly doubt booting up windows uses more than 80mb/s so a cheap SSd will boot up as fast as an expensive one due to having the same seek time but slower R/W.
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The HDD will be the slowest part, but the CPU is also being used when booting. The last testing I did with a RAMdisk versus HDD on XP (Ramdisk was something like 5x quicker), the boot time decreased by 10 seconds when using a non-mechanical disk.
Check here for perfmon graphs:
http://mybroadband.co.za/photos/showphoto.php/photo/12620/ppuser/71630
http://mybroadband.co.za/photos/showphoto.php/photo/12619/ppuser/71630
What's your total then?
On my 1.86GHz Atom netbook I get about 10-12sec for WinXP Professional, SP-3. That's with 1GB of DDR2 RAM. Toshiba 64GB SSD.
I get about 30sec on my Panasonic - 1.6GHz C2D, 2GB RAM - WinXP Professional, SP-3. Toshiba 80GB HDD.
The CPU won't be used when the devices are enumerated unless your OS loader can somehow load up elements of your OS before the USB, sound, network, etc. I would gather that depends on your components and chipset.
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killadoob
Honorary Master
I would say the cpu is being used during the whole boot process.
What do you think boots and runs your pc when you switch it on peter? Your cpu. The reason a pc boots faster with a ssd is that the ssd can receive and execute the cpu commands far faster than a normal drive.
The hdd is there for the cpu to dictate if that makes sense.
What do you think boots and runs your pc when you switch it on peter? Your cpu. The reason a pc boots faster with a ssd is that the ssd can receive and execute the cpu commands far faster than a normal drive.
The hdd is there for the cpu to dictate if that makes sense.
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bekdik
Honorary Master
Be warned, if you check the number of processors box and choose 1, you will only use a single cpu.
Rather uncheck the nuber of processors box.
DJNgoma
Expert Member
gregmcc
Honorary Master
I always put my Win7 to sleep when I'm not using it instead of shutting down.
On a wakeup I'm up and running in 5 secs!
On a wakeup I'm up and running in 5 secs!
killadoob
Honorary Master
I hate windows 7 and vista sleep mode, it always breaks and eventually fails to come out of sleep.
So flippin annoying
So flippin annoying
Must be a problem with your hardware. My Windows XP sleep mode always works great - hibernate and sleep. I've tried it also with OSX and no issues there either.
killadoob
Honorary Master
No it's an issue with windows 7 and vista. Both my pc's in the beginning go to sleep like normal but then a couple weeks later they never wake up lol. You have never used either so would not have experienced the annoying bug 
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Now i just shut down because it is bloody annoying.
.Now i just shut down because it is bloody annoying.
When you put your PC in Hibernate or Sleep, the battery is still draining. So unless you run on mains the time you boot up or recharge, you will have this issue. Leaving a PC in sleep for weeks on end is a long time and can drain those batteries flat.
KhoisanX
Expert Member
I almost never use shut down, and I've (almost)never had a problem with sleep mode on XP, Vista or 7. With 7 the PC is up and running almost instantly and this has been since RC.
killadoob
Honorary Master
Peter what makes you think i am talking about a laptop?
My 2 pc's at home, not laptops pc's.
My 2 pc's at home, not laptops pc's.