Windows 7: Your Opinion

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FarligOpptreden

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Well, seeing as I'm already running IE8, it really is much different to IE7 (so far). The Compatibility mode is nice for legacy web apps, but the "standard feature" that each tab runs in its own process is terrible. If you have multiple tabs open, IE8 consumes a huge chuck of system memory. Luckily there's a fix for that by adding a registry entry... Still not nice to have it as a "standard feature" though - I'd prefer it to be optional.
 
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dequadin said:
Yeah I kinda know what you're supposed to do. The problem is I've got a rather large VB 6.0 codebase that is still being maintained. It's very naughty and won't play nice with UAC (e.g. using the registry for config). I'm expecting headaches here....
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The registry is not an issue if you write to HKCU. You don't need elevation then, for the rest, it is a problem.

Good luck for fixing the VB6 so that it runs with UAC, it took me some reading up and figuring out to get applications compatable, but once you are used to programming in the 'correct' way, it smooth sailing.

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Yip I agree it does look pretty cool. I hope "The Ribbon" (Office 2007 style) doesn't take off. I really dislike that thing...
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I don't have issues with the Ribbon. The only problem is that you get developers that like the ribbon interface and want to use it for everything - and that doesn't work! The ribbon has got very little use in applications and is definately not the be-all-end-all and the end of the traditional menu system.
 
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Why do people always worry about the UAC as if you cannot just go into the settings and turn it off?

Takes 5 seconds to turn UAC off.
 
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killadoob said:
Why do people always worry about the UAC as if you cannot just go into the settings and turn it off?

Takes 5 seconds to turn UAC off.
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Well, when developing an application you have to the effects of UAC in consideration and and develop the app for when UAC is switched on. UAC is a good thing and if you don't develop a application to run without UAC enabled, then your application has got a bad security design.
 
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killadoob said:
Why do people always worry about the UAC as if you cannot just go into the settings and turn it off?

Takes 5 seconds to turn UAC off.
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You can't release a product and say to all your clients that they have to turn off UAC or run your app as administrator. We have to cater for it, you don't have to use it. Plus a lot of IT managers are probably happy about UAC and will enforce it throughout their organisation. Big difference....

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The registry is not an issue if you write to HKCU. You don't need elevation then, for the rest, it is a problem.

Good luck for fixing the VB6 so that it runs with UAC, it took me some reading up and figuring out to get applications compatable, but once you are used to programming in the 'correct' way, it smooth sailing.

I don't have issues with the Ribbon. The only problem is that you get developers that like the ribbon interface and want to use it for everything - and that doesn't work! The ribbon has got very little use in applications and is definately not the be-all-end-all and the end of the traditional menu system.
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Yay it's all HKLM :)

I hear what you saying with the Ribbon, but that's basically the same with everything, if aren't using something in the way it was intended for sure you'redoingitwrong. I just don't like the concept of the Ribbon. I like it lean and mean and I find it's a uber screen hog. Sure you can minimize it but then whats the point?
 
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FarligOpptreden said:
Well, seeing as I'm already running IE8, it really is much different to IE7 (so far). The Compatibility mode is nice for legacy web apps, but the "standard feature" that each tab runs in its own process is terrible. If you have multiple tabs open, IE8 consumes a huge chuck of system memory. Luckily there's a fix for that by adding a registry entry... Still not nice to have it as a "standard feature" though - I'd prefer it to be optional.
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+1 :D

As for deploying apps on Win7, stability is really a bonus as compared to Vista. Resource handling and processing is by far more advanced then on Vista or XP. I've been running Win7 for the past couple of Months and can't seem to find any hassles with it. Truly happy with. Some apps aren't compatible with it (x64 platform) but there's always something else :D

<side note>Personally won't get the retail on Thursday as the new Ubuntu releases in 13 odd days :D</side note>
 
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Lord-Nikon said:
+1 :D

As for deploying apps on Win7, stability is really a bonus as compared to Vista. Resource handling and processing is by far more advanced then on Vista or XP.
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I really don't see that as any reason to look forward to developing for Windows 7. XP is super stable so it's hard to improve on that! Vista's stability issues (I assume) come from the fact that there is such poor driver support, which is one of the things Microsoft has addressed with Windows 7. So that's hardware <-> OS stability issues not OS <-> Client Application stability issues...

Another thing that is quite exciting and wasn't mentioned on the Software forum much is the improved multi-threading at the OS level. This coupled with the Task Parallel Library = yummy :) FarligOpptreden how many threads can your create in your UI? :D
 
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Great OS but what I have come to hate is the way the registry (not sure if thats the issue) works, I dont understand why they cannot design a system that doesnt slow down when you install stuff
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It's not the registry slowing things down. The registry is simply a database of settings; and just like a database the size of the DB will only negatively impact performance if you scan/query the entire database.

When an application queries the registry it queries an exact location within the registry, so the size becomes irrelevant. Increasing the size of the registry will result in full registry scans taking more time - and this is seldom done (if ever), thus increased registry size will not slow down your PC.
 
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FarligOpptreden

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dequadin said:
Another thing that is quite exciting and wasn't mentioned on the Software forum much is the improved multi-threading at the OS level. This coupled with the Task Parallel Library = yummy :) FarligOpptreden how many threads can your create in your UI? :D
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As many as I want to, but it would be kinda redundant... :p Remember, with web apps the server-side processing only happens between client requests. Another option would be to do asynchronous calls, with a callback delegate assigned to complete a request in order to minimize response time to the client. The worlds of web and windows development are vastly different - I've had experience in both, seeing as our solution has several "offline" server management components. I still prefer the freedom and accessibility that a web application offers.

Building a proper, scalable web application is just as challenging as building a resource efficient windows app. The amount of concurrent users and the load of data shifted around can be staggering at times. Our online solution hosts several clients on a single set of binaries, connecting to different databases based on different configuration files (derived from the virtual directory of the web application). But the fact is that we have a single set of binaries that should be efficient and scalable enough to host multiple web applications at once. Asynchronous processing (and yes, even multi-threading) comes in handy in situations like that... :D

Wow, didn't realize my vent was so long... :p
 
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Since this thread is sufficiently derailed and FarligOpptreden has risen nicely to some semi-troll bait :)D)

Here are the Top 11 Features Not Found in Windows 7
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Top 11 Features Not Found in Windows 7

11. Blue Screen of Resurrection
10. Classic Vista compatibility mode
9. Richard Stallman quote of the day on boot up
8. Minesweeper 2: This Time It's Personal
7. Personal apology from Bill Gates for Me, Vista and IE 6
6. Brad Pitt wife's head in every box.
5. Complete collection of "I'm a Mac" ads.
4. Setting up a botnet wizard
3. One of five golden tickets to tour the Microsoft compound in Redmond
2. Money back guarantee if not fully satisfied
1. Google Apps integration
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Origional here...
 
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Win7 is awesome.

I'd buy it if it were like 400 bucks. Maybe.
 
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Le^stat said:
Windows 7 is a real improvement...thumbs up...

I haven't found telnet yet though :D
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run as administrator command prompt type this command
pkgmgr /iu:TelnetClient

or or ;D

1. Start
2. Control Panel
3. Programs And Features
4. Turn Windows features on or off
5. Check Telnet Client
6. Hit OK

After that you can start Telnet via Command Prompt.
 
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I'm running an Inspiron 9100 from 2003/4. Will Windows 7 be a bit faster than the stupid-ass Vista? (Vista runs fine but ****s my hard drive so bad it's vagina gets tired and explodes)
 
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