Windows phone faces app challenge

[Mr.CookieMonster]

Thats will be the reason the Lumia fails. Because of Windows Phone, which they thought was better but it aint!

I wonder what are the reasons for people not developing apps on Windows Phone and Symbian? Is it because maybe there is very little you can do with the two or is it maybe they are tired of the two?

 

[Elimentals]

And it should be noted that developers are quiting developing for andriod due to fragmentation in andriod. It is becoming so frustrating for developers to recreate same app again and again for same os with different versions which has no interrelationship within it's self

Quote your source, as I don't know of any thats quiting, only that a lot of cross platform developers don't release until the numbers demand it. ie: the number of new apps are slowing down.

 

[Tshenu]

Quote your source, as I don't know of any thats quiting, only that a lot of cross platform developers don't release until the numbers demand it. ie: the number of new apps are slowing down.

you wanted a source here is my source "gsmarena.com/less_developers_want_to_make_apps_for_android_due_to_fragmentation-news-3995.php"

 

[Elimentals]

you wanted a source here is my source "gsmarena.com/less_developers_want_to_make_apps_for_android_due_to_fragmentation-news-3995.php"

I don't see any mention of "And it should be noted that developers are quiting developing for andriod due to fragmentation in andriod"

Android fragmentation could turn up to be more dangerous than frustrating, according to a recent study. Developer interest in the platform has decreased recently and fragmentation is quoted as the main reason for this.

A research conducted by IDC in collaboration with Appcelerator shows that developers are less willing to create new apps for Android due to the extremely diverse device base and the different versions of the mobile OS they are running.

The study, which is conducted every three months for the past two years, shows that some developers are losing interest in the Android platform. Now, 78% of developers are very interested in coding for the Google smartphones, while those willing to create apps for Android tablet are just 67%.

Apple iOS is still the favorite platform among the developers, who took part in the survey. The main reason for that, Appcelerator's Mike King reckons, is the low number of Apple devices and the fact that most of them run the latest version of iOS. Monetization also plays a big role in the choice of a mobile platform to code for, according to King.

Windows Phone interest has been growing steadily over the last few quarters and as Windows 8 gets closer to its release candidate Microsoft's platform seems to be starting to generate more and more interest in developers. The long-awaited arrival of the Nokia WP smartphones has probably played an important part, too.

Losing interest ≠ quiting. Its just more likely that they will code a iOS app 1st and only if demand is high port to the other platform.

 

[Tshenu]

I don't see any mention of "And it should be noted that developers are quiting developing for andriod due to fragmentation in andriod"



Losing interest ≠ quiting. Its just more likely that they will code a iOS app 1st and only if demand is high port to the other platform.

lol, I rest my case, I don't no about you but if am not interested then it means am out.

 

[falcon786]

lol, I rest my case, I don't no about you but if am not interested then it means am out.

Aaah someone who can't admit that he was wrong then.

Elimentals has a point and your answer makes you seem rather silly,either argue your point in a valid way or admit you were wrong, no point in cowarding out of a claim now.

 

[Mouse]

Here's why the stats posted by Elimentals are relevant despite using percentages:

In the period he mentioned, the cellphone industry grew by 71%

Since Elop announced his Microsoft strategy, Nokia market share crashed to 12% its sales declined by 31% all while the industry had an explosive year of growth of 71%.

For any company or platform to be showing shrinking market share in such an environment points to abysmal failure.
Notice that the only platforms that are showing failure are Symbian, Blackberry and Windows.

Now an even more important part of these stats when considering development is:
If I have to spend x to develop for a platform, I would like to know there is a significant enough user base for me to have any hope of gaining revenue from said platform's user base.

If platforms 1 and 2 have significant market share and are growing, those are safe bets for my invested money to grow.
If platforms 3, 4 and 5 are shrinking relative to the rest of the market, those are not worthwhile to spend money on when its likely that even if I defy all odds and get 100% of that platforms users to buy my app, I will probably not make back the money I put into development.

Now factor in that on WP7 the language to be used is C# while on all other platforms I can develop from a common codebase on C, C++ or even QT if I wanted to target multiple platforms cost effectively.
This makes it even more costly to target WP7 as I have to now rewrite a significant portion of code just to target one platform with shrinking market share.

 

[Tshenu]

Aaah someone who can't admit that he was wrong then.

Elimentals has a point and your answer makes you seem rather silly,either argue your point in a valid way or admit you were wrong, no point in cowarding out of a claim now.

why should i argue with somebody who is not willing to admit a fact, he has fantecies in his head that even a study that i showed him in the link above does'nt change his thinking or enhance it a bit. ''less developers showing interest developing for andriod'' the study says.

 

[Elimentals]

why should i argue with somebody who is not willing to admit a fact, he has fantecies in his head that even a study that i showed him in the link above does'nt change his thinking or enhance it a bit. ''less developers showing interest developing for andriod'' the study says.

1st off who is arguing? I am certainly not having an argument, I see it more as a debate.
2nd there is a huge difference between quiting and losing interest.

I can lose interest in my job but still work there, just with lack of productivity. I can lose interest in this debate but still not move on, lack of quality. I can lose interest in making food tonight, but seeing that I have to feed people I don't have the opportunity to quit as they still want to be fed. Same can go for developers, they can lose interest in making something available for an OS but still do so when the demand is there. BIG difference

 

[Tshenu]

1st off who is arguing? I am certainly not having an argument, I see it more as a debate.
2nd there is a huge difference between quiting and losing interest.

I can lose interest in my job but still work there, just with lack of productivity. I can lose interest in this debate but still not move on, lack of quality. I can lose interest in making food tonight, but seeing that I have to feed people I don't have the opportunity to quit as they still want to be fed. Same can go for developers, they can lose interest in making something available for an OS but still do so when the demand is there. BIG difference

the response was intended for Falcon786 hence i used the word urguing and secondly i just lost interest in this ''debate'' cough*fanboy*cough*blindness*cough*full glass

 

[Mouse]

With their intention being to get current Windows developers to also target Windows phones & tablets, I wonder how many Windows developers are actually interested in doing so. I know on this forum we have Roguemat, are there any others?

If I were to go that route, I would rather target iOS and Android due to their market share, even though I already know .NET and C# and I have never coded with any Apple technology before.

 

[Park@82]

.. No syncing between phone and outlook.
..

I had a WP7 for a short period and had the same problem.

I ended up syncing Outlook with gmail and gmail with the phone, and to keep the calender synced I installed Google calender sync on my pc.

It does sync with Exchange IIRC so for most this should not be a problem.