Wirelessly connecting two properties about 450m from each other

rudivdw

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Hi guys

I wonder if anyone here can help me - my father-in-law and I want to setup a wireless network between our two places - we're about 450m as the crow flies from each other, and line-of-sight I think will be possible with a pole or two.

Main reason is he's on the one plot in town that doesn't have a ADSL line, and he's been struggling with Telkom for 3 years now, but of course to no avail... So we're moving there, and I though this might be a way to play around with an outdoor bridge or something to share my ADSL with them wirelessly.

From Pinnacle I can get an Engenius EOC1650 for relatively cheap - will this thing do the trick? If so, do we both need one? Their website claims 1km to 30km, but I find that hard to believe... Anyone done something like this?

Otherwise, any other suggestions?

Thanks in advance!
Rudi
 

Messugga

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Speak to the WUG guys - 450m LOS is childsplay compared to what they normally have to deal with. They'll quite probably point you towards a Mikrotik unit of some form. You get very nice outdoor unit with power over ethernet.
 

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I helped a friend do one from a house in Kreupelbosch to an office in Westlake. We used a dish from Miro and a laser aiming device, and software to determine the signal level.

The dish was mounted against the wall on a satellite bracket. Once the laser aiming device could be seen through binoculars, it took a further 20 mins to align the dish. The bolts were tightened one at a time in rotation so the dish did not move

The distance was 5.5 km and this was put up in 2011 and still works.
 

Timber_MG

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Mikrotik or Ubiquity would both work. Get decent internet and get someone like Bitco to give you VOIP while you're at it.
 

Magandroid

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Hi guys

I wonder if anyone here can help me - my father-in-law and I want to setup a wireless network between our two places - we're about 450m as the crow flies from each other, and line-of-sight I think will be possible with a pole or two.

Main reason is he's on the one plot in town that doesn't have a ADSL line, and he's been struggling with Telkom for 3 years now, but of course to no avail... So we're moving there, and I though this might be a way to play around with an outdoor bridge or something to share my ADSL with them wirelessly.

From Pinnacle I can get an Engenius EOC1650 for relatively cheap - will this thing do the trick? If so, do we both need one? Their website claims 1km to 30km, but I find that hard to believe... Anyone done something like this?

Otherwise, any other suggestions?

Thanks in advance!
Rudi
Have installed quite a few of these especially the older models and they work quite well. It's very easy to setup and it just works. Have installed over distances longer than 450m so you should have a problem.
 

dadecoza

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EOC-2610 is a Long Range outdoor wireless client bridge / access point
That will work but as mentioned earlier rather Ubiquiti or Mikrotik. Ubiquiti is far easier to configure and will work for your application. Mikrotik if you want firewalling, queuing, fancy routing etc.
 

rudivdw

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ahhh awesome thanks so much for all the responses so far, I don't feel like a headless chicken anymore, at least I have something to work with hehe
 

nand

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Formally, you're looking for a Point-to-Point link.
Your only really problem is line of sight, and I don't mean just being able to see the other CPE.

We're talking about the frenzel zone. For 450m you'll need about 2m of open space surrounding the direct line of sight.
Wikipedia provides a more in-depth explanation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fresnel_zone

It's partly the reason why base stations are always at a higher altitude than clients.
It's something to think about if there are trees around.

As for devices, don't kill it. You'll want a low gain, which is cheap.
Ubiquity is by far the easiest to manage, but if you're quite clued-up or willing to learn, definitely get Mikrotik.

Wouldn't you need a WISP license to do that?
Yes.
 

lumpyza

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iv worked with the nano stations and have had good results for P2P links over 1-1.5km without any problems... for a beginner the nano stations are vary easy to use... if you putting the nano stations on poles, make sure they wont sway too much in the wind, so proper guide wires for anchoring will be essential! all the best!
 
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