Woolworths SA refuses to back down from supporting Pride Month

[daveza]

Oh that's a different argument that I'm not partaking in since I don't particularly care either way.

All I'm saying is that just because animals might "display homosexual behaviour" doesn't necessarily make them homosexual.

Do they have to actually shag each other to be homosexual?

What if they just spoon a bit, like chums?

 

[Azbubu]

Do they have to actually shag each other to be homosexual?

What if they just spoon a bit, like chums?

I don’t know where the lines are drawn. Some would say at chai latte and others at lemon party.

Which is why the argument is useless without defining what “displaying homosexual behaviour” actually means.

 

[LoadShedder]

And not everthing that is an abnormality is immoral. It might be.

Agree. There's more nuance than abnormal = immoral.

 

[¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

The fact that it happens in nature is very much a valid argument for it not being abnormal.

One could also make other comparisons limited to humans such as the fact that LGBTQ makes up about 7% of the population while people who drive a BMW make up less than 0.2%.
So if being LGBTQ is abnormal (it's not), then a person who drives a BMW is 35 times as abnormal.
Would you consider someone "abnormal" if they said their favorite color is yellow? Because there are way less of them than LGBTQ people.

My point is that the argument that being LGBTQ is "abnormal" has not been validated with any kind of factual data. Cause the data shows that it is fairly common and completely normal. In humans and across nature.

I could respond that the primary purpose of sex and sexual attraction in humans, in fact mammals, is procreation. Any same sex activities in this area is a evolutionary dead end. It's logic. Ask any biologist.

Unfortunately the follow the science community has stopped thinking for themselves, logic no longer applies. They cannot even say what a woman is and believe men can be pregnant and give birth.

How do you explain normal vs abnormal to such folks?

 

[Gone Fishing]

I could respond that the primary purpose of sex and sexual attraction in humans, in fact mammals, is procreation. Any same sex activities in this area is a evolutionary dead end. It's logic. Ask any biologist.

Unfortunately the follow the science community has stopped thinking for themselves, logic no longer applies. They cannot even say what a woman is and believe men can be pregnant and give birth.

How do you explain normal vs abnormal to such folks?

What is the end goal? To procreate 100 kids? People ruin that when they commit themselves to one partner through marriage.

Say people push out 1 kid, can they be gay then? Did they succeed on the cosmic scale?

 

[tetrasect]

I don’t know where the lines are drawn. Some would say at chai latte and others at lemon party.

Which is why the argument is useless without defining what “displaying homosexual behaviour” actually means.

Let me give you some examples...

Amazon dolphins
The Amazon river dolphin or boto has been reported to form up in bands of 3–5 individuals engaging in sexual activity. The groups usually comprise young males and sometimes one or two females. Sex is often performed in non-reproductive ways, using snout, flippers and genital rubbing, without regard to gender.  In captivity, they have been observed to sometimes perform homosexual and heterosexual penetration of the blowhole, a hole homologous with the nostril of other mammals, making this the only known example of nasal sex in the animal kingdom. The males will sometimes also perform sex with males from the tucuxi species, a type of small porpoise.

American bisons
Courtship, mounting, and full anal penetration between bulls has been noted to occur among American bison.

Bats
More than 20 species of bat have been documented to engage in homosexual behavior.
Homosexual behavior in bats has been categorized into 6 groups: mutual homosexual grooming and licking, homosexual masturbation, homosexual play, homosexual mounting, coercive sex, and cross-species homosexual sex.

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Two male Bonin flying foxes (Pteropus pselaphon) performing fellatio on each other.

Giraffes
Male giraffes have been observed to engage in remarkably high frequencies of homosexual behavior. After aggressive "necking", it is common for two male giraffes to caress and court each other, leading up to mounting and climax. Such interactions between males have been found to be more frequent than heterosexual coupling. In one study, up to 94% of observed mounting incidents took place between two males.

That's just a few from the top of the list. Pretty wild stuff hey?

Homosexual behavior in animals - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[RanzB]

I could respond that the primary purpose of sex and sexual attraction in humans, in fact mammals, is procreation. Any same sex activities in this area is a evolutionary dead end. It's logic. Ask any biologist.

I hope you've never asked for a blowjob.

 

[tetrasect]

I could respond that the primary purpose of sex and sexual attraction in humans, in fact mammals, is procreation. Any same sex activities in this area is a evolutionary dead end. It's logic. Ask any biologist.

Unfortunately the follow the science community has stopped thinking for themselves, logic no longer applies. They cannot even say what a woman is and believe men can be pregnant and give birth.

How do you explain normal vs abnormal to such folks?

Sure thing Mr.Scientist.

Care to quote a single biologist who says homosexual behavior is abnormal?

Man... the kak you come up with...

 

[capd]

Let me give you some examples...

Amazon dolphins
The Amazon river dolphin or boto has been reported to form up in bands of 3–5 individuals engaging in sexual activity. The groups usually comprise young males and sometimes one or two females. Sex is often performed in non-reproductive ways, using snout, flippers and genital rubbing, without regard to gender.  In captivity, they have been observed to sometimes perform homosexual and heterosexual penetration of the blowhole, a hole homologous with the nostril of other mammals, making this the only known example of nasal sex in the animal kingdom. The males will sometimes also perform sex with males from the tucuxi species, a type of small porpoise.

American bisons
Courtship, mounting, and full anal penetration between bulls has been noted to occur among American bison.

Bats
More than 20 species of bat have been documented to engage in homosexual behavior.
Homosexual behavior in bats has been categorized into 6 groups: mutual homosexual grooming and licking, homosexual masturbation, homosexual play, homosexual mounting, coercive sex, and cross-species homosexual sex.

0:27
Two male Bonin flying foxes (Pteropus pselaphon) performing fellatio on each other.

Giraffes
Male giraffes have been observed to engage in remarkably high frequencies of homosexual behavior. After aggressive "necking", it is common for two male giraffes to caress and court each other, leading up to mounting and climax. Such interactions between males have been found to be more frequent than heterosexual coupling. In one study, up to 94% of observed mounting incidents took place between two males.

That's just a few from the top of the list. Pretty wild stuff hey?

Homosexual behavior in animals - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Thanks, Chat!

 

[rietrot]

Let me give you some examples...

Amazon dolphins
The Amazon river dolphin or boto has been reported to form up in bands of 3–5 individuals engaging in sexual activity. The groups usually comprise young males and sometimes one or two females. Sex is often performed in non-reproductive ways, using snout, flippers and genital rubbing, without regard to gender.  In captivity, they have been observed to sometimes perform homosexual and heterosexual penetration of the blowhole, a hole homologous with the nostril of other mammals, making this the only known example of nasal sex in the animal kingdom. The males will sometimes also perform sex with males from the tucuxi species, a type of small porpoise.

American bisons
Courtship, mounting, and full anal penetration between bulls has been noted to occur among American bison.

Bats
More than 20 species of bat have been documented to engage in homosexual behavior.
Homosexual behavior in bats has been categorized into 6 groups: mutual homosexual grooming and licking, homosexual masturbation, homosexual play, homosexual mounting, coercive sex, and cross-species homosexual sex.

0:27
Two male Bonin flying foxes (Pteropus pselaphon) performing fellatio on each other.

Giraffes
Male giraffes have been observed to engage in remarkably high frequencies of homosexual behavior. After aggressive "necking", it is common for two male giraffes to caress and court each other, leading up to mounting and climax. Such interactions between males have been found to be more frequent than heterosexual coupling. In one study, up to 94% of observed mounting incidents took place between two males.

That's just a few from the top of the list. Pretty wild stuff hey?

Homosexual behavior in animals - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Strange but true: Seals found sexually assaulting penguins

Researchers were shocked to discover multiple instances of seal-on-penguin rape

www.cbsnews.com

Does this justify rape or beastiality or both?

 

[¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

I hope you've never asked for a blowjob.

Wow, you were so ahead of your time.



All words have meaning.

I could respond that the primary purpose of sex and sexual attraction in humans, in fact mammals, is procreation. Any same sex activities in this area is a evolutionary dead end. It's logic. Ask any biologist.

Unfortunately the follow the science community has stopped thinking for themselves, logic no longer applies. They cannot even say what a woman is and believe men can be pregnant and give birth.

How do you explain normal vs abnormal to such folks?

 

[tetrasect]

Wow, you were so ahead of your time.

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All words have meaning.




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[tetrasect]

Strange but true: Seals found sexually assaulting penguins

Researchers were shocked to discover multiple instances of seal-on-penguin rape

www.cbsnews.com

Does this justify rape or beastiality or both?

You'd love it if it did.

 

[Kieppie]

Strange but true: Seals found sexually assaulting penguins

Researchers were shocked to discover multiple instances of seal-on-penguin rape

www.cbsnews.com

Does this justify rape or beastiality or both?

Wait until they find out the frequency of incest in the animal kingdom.
The joys of trying to legitimise human behaviour through that of exceptions in animals...

 

[tetrasect]

Wait until they find out the frequency of incest in the animal kingdom.
The joys of trying to legitimise human behaviour through that of exceptions in animals...

Tell it to the royal family and Pornhub.

 

[¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

Sure thing Mr.Scientist.

Care to quote a single biologist who says homosexual behavior is abnormal?

Man... the kak you come up with...

Says the guy quoting Wikipedia?

May I introduce Prof Michael Levin, a biologist, who has studied it from both a biological and philosophical side. You welcome to digest your own kak, tyvm. Oh, and you're welcome.

 

[tetrasect]

Says the guy quoting Wikipedia?

May I introduce Prof Michael Levin, a biologist, who has studied it from both a biological and philosophical side. You welcome to digest your own kak, tyvm. Oh, and you're welcome.

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1984? So he wrote that when he was 15 years old?

Yeah that's not the same guy.

Got anything from an actual biologist?

 

[Azbubu]

Says the guy quoting Wikipedia?

May I introduce Prof Michael Levin, a biologist, who has studied it from both a biological and philosophical side. You welcome to digest your own kak, tyvm. Oh, and you're welcome.

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The paper you mention was published in 1984. The Michael Levin you linked to was born in 1969… I’ll let you do the maths.

 

[Stonemason]

Generally speaking, a black person who doesn't vote for the ANC is abnormal. Is it morally wrong for a black person to oppose the ANC?

You do not get it. Do you?
I have never seen such an irrelevant argument on MyBB ever.

 

[tetrasect]

Says the guy quoting Wikipedia?

May I introduce Prof Michael Levin, a biologist, who has studied it from both a biological and philosophical side. You welcome to digest your own kak, tyvm. Oh, and you're welcome.

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This is your guy:

Michael Levin (born 21 May 1943) is an American philosopher and writer.

Torture​

In the 1982 article "The Case for Torture", Levin argued that "there are situations where torture is not merely permissible but morally mandatory." Levin reiterated this view in 2009.

Race​

Throughout the 1990s Levin frequently wrote about race differences in intelligence, biology, and morality for the white nationalist publication American Renaissance. The Southern Poverty Law Center classifies him as an "unabashed white supremacist."

Michael Levin - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org