World of Warcraft Hosting

Nemeses

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To all my fellow gamers.

For a while now, I have been wanting to create a dedicated online World of Warcraft server.

Though I hadn't wither had enough time or support for this, I did play on a number of servers online.
These were mainly our free local hosts.
While many people, obviously, played onhttp://digitalasylum.co.nr these servers, there were many downfalls.

Out of a number of them, these included DC's, Unexpected Server Shutdowns and Downtimes, Rude and Arrogant GM's, Unfriendly Playing Environments, Alot of the Server not working and much more.

I have however, been hosting WoW servers for our LAN's, such as the Asylum LAN. These servers proved highly effective, as in everything worked, my GM's were super friendly, helpful, and we always setup competitions and mini games for the server to enjoy.

Through my gaming experience, I know that i can setup a Server that is better, more intense, more fun, and much more friendly than any others out there. This includes what people call 'The best Server/s in SA".

But, to do that, I need to get these servers online, and need approx R900 p.m to do that.
So I have to call upon you guys (Without sounding like a fraud), so give me information about anyone, or any company, you know thats willing to sponsor something like this.

Please feel free to contact me to ask any questions, for GM applications, or just give a random comment.
Please know that i will be as open minded and will have the utmost respect for any and all gamers. Because without you, none of this could possibly happen.

Either:
Leave a comment
Email me
Website
Call me (Unfortunatly you have to email me asing for my number)

Thank you.
 
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S7wede

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No company in their right mind will help you in hosting illegal World of Warcraft servers!
 

somescrub

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I have to ask why?
why would anyone play on private servers?
No matter what you do you will never be able to provide a matching service to Blizzard.

So here are the arguments:
low ping, low latency:
sure you get low latency with private servers, however this comes with conditions...
you have a low population, It is not possible under todays infrastructure in south africa to host a server that can handle 25 users in 1 raid. (nvm rest of server) certainly not without investing thousands in dedicated sql cluster on some backbone hosting, backup planning ect which costs a fortune.

Counter: with using Battleping (free atm) and Web africa bandwidth - you get sub 300ms - can be even as low as 250ms which is more than low enough for the hardest hard modes.


It's free: yeah but...
stuff just doesnt work properly, no matter what GM's say, there are bugged quests, bugged scripts in instances, just loads of bugs everywhere, even on the best EMU's
Cheating is rampant.
There is no guarantee that any effort you put into your character will last. Server will crash, host will bail, Dbase will corrupt (if fact pretty much guaranteed your efforts will be lost)
Nothing is really free, someone if paying, and there is no obligation on them to continue paying if they dont want to.

Counter: well at R140/ 60 days, thats a touch over R2 a day, dudes you pay more than that for Mnet, beer, cigaresttes, going out; whatever, the bang for buck just cant be argued with.
counter 2: Whatever you put into your character/s will be kept for the life time of the game. even if you quit or emo delete your toons, they can be retrieved.

The community: Ok I can agree that you often find a nice community on private servers (mileage may vary)
but I would say then your doing it wrong on official.

Counter: There are awsome guilds out there to cater for every play style and community.
If you want to raid/socialise with fellow south africans then apply to FOA http://www.flameofanduril.com/ (there are others ofc)

To sum up, sure private servers can be fun, but that fun is very limiting. I played private for a while, but it is fail.
No disrespect to the efforts of the people who manage these, it is hard work and time consuming.

Official wow is where it's at.
 

Nemeses

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Somescrub, you put up a fantastic argument.

Everything you said is true, and i couldn't counter it no matter how fancy I typed, nor hide it by trying to make people think diferently.

Not that I want to.

You see, I am not here to put up an argument, not try fight my way through flamers (Not calling you one).
This is because I haven't got the server up yet. So I don't care if, now, i get flamed.

The only reason I posted this was to see if any one, Including one of the 500 players (Which i don't really call low population, but thats all a user-ended opinion) that currently play on a low ping, very effective, and somewhat bug free server.

So, if all I get is "no", and "f-off", then I honestly accept that. Because as i said....
Please know that i will be as open minded and will have the utmost respect for any and all gamers. Because without you, none of this could possibly happen.
 

somescrub

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Hey Nemeses.
your right, I wasnt trying to flame.

I was in a position a while ago where i actually believed that it was impossible to play wow in south africa at some decent level without all the issues that people face.
It's what made me turn to a private server for my fix. Eventually through investment, reasearch and commitment I managed to overcome the challenges of playing on official at a high level.
I just want to speak to maybe some people who think that playing on official is not a good experience.

connecting on a standard connection straight to wow official you will be very lucky to get sub 600ms, which in a raidng (25) environment is not playable.

Overcoming the technical challenges of a private server are commendable. I just tried to have people realise that with the right approach, tools and software/accounts. We are able to play wow on official just as well as our European cousins :)
I am sure you are aware of this, but having a server on a lan is way different to having it over the interwebs.

Another point, by playing on private servers these are skewing the figures for blizzard to put (or peer) a WoW server for the african community.
If everyone who was on private servers in south africa were on Official then the business case for a south african wow solution ,we can dream :) , would be that much more compelling.

right now they have said that due to subscriber numbers is is not economically feasabile to put a server in south africa (for the most part) but they obviously dont count the thousands of people who play on private servers (based here and abroad) or even people who would play on SA server even though based overseas. Or even poeple who put fake UK addresses due to qualifiying for refer a friend and such.

I'll ignore the fact that it's illegal cause with my downloading I can hardly call the kettle black :)

Good luck with your endeavours...
www.gamerscube.co.za - this is a good private wow server, been going for some time. maybe contacting some of their GM's will help out.
 

Nemeses

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Appreciate the feedback

Will look into it as much as possible before making a rash decision.

Knowing that LAN games are much more stable than that of the web, we will (and already have) a fully committed team to resolve any and all surprises.
 

h0ll0w

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Nemeses you are the umpteenth fool asking for advice/whatever on hosting a pirate WoW server, but I haven't bothered with any for a very long time so I'll bite.

All of the fancy typing you can possibly do, will also not hide the fact that what you are committing is plain and simple fraud and theft, and could potentially get you into serious trouble, although it probably won't.

Every pirate WoW server under the sun is also downright terrible wrt to playing experience, the reasons are so numerous that I wont even start mentioning them. Also, the idea of playing WoW locally on a LAN makes me rofl.

My advice would be to spend all that effort into rather doing something constructive with a computer, and get yourself an official WoW account and enjoy the game for what it is supposed to be.
 

scabs

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Geez, I can't believe how many people actually give a damn if someone wants to create/play a private server. It really will not affect you in the slightest, seems that a lot of people think that people who play on private servers are stealing from them. They not so get over it.

For goodness sake who gives a *****, I play on both and have fun on both.

If I wanted to host one i would set it up on a regular cheap server with dyndns host it at home and look into bonding two 4mb lines.
 

h0ll0w

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I hint at part of the answer in my first post. I was bored and at that moment I thought it'll be fun to flame a noob. That's all there is to it.

So now, why do you quote a post directly above yours ?
 

Tinuva

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ok.


Question was directed at you, so quoting you just seemed obvious.
 

Nemeses

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Update

Server for the WoW server, including web servers and other dedicated servers will cost in the region of 3k (or 6k for something better). We have a company that is willing to sponsor the amount. Lets see how many people are willing to join now. Big ideas for the server.

Also, I fully agree with Scabs, because this is true.

None of what I, nor any other servers are doing will affect any of you or your gameplay. I am not creating something, and forcing you to join, I am mearly providing the tools for all to use (If they want to).

Free private servers cannot be shut down due to the fact that they are not being funded, so Blizzard is making a loss in no way possible.

"Oh no, people will move from Blizzard to your sever" - Well, as I said, I am mearly providing the tools. What people want to do with their time has nothing to do with it. If you want to argue, please feel free to look back on the simple fact of "What has it got to do with me"

The server will be hosted off a T1 line, meaning no disconnections or downtime.

Anyway, for those who are interested, the server will start at version 3.3.5, and we can almost guarantee we will have the 1st (Almost) Bug-free Cataclysm server.
There won't only be Wow, as a variety of games and other services(Use the imagination) can be included.
 

Nemeses

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I hint at part of the answer in my first post. I was bored and at that moment I thought it'll be fun to flame a noob. That's all there is to it.

So now, why do you quote a post directly above yours ?

Um, buddy, FAR from noob...
"Oh no, I just never seen you before"
Think of this -> Alternate account, Name spoofing... Why think youre better? We each know something more than eachother"

"No, I was just expressing my views", well in that case, why say what you did?
"Im just too hardcore for you", noob.

Please, leave flaming for household activities. No one appreciates negativity on a (not-so) new idea.
 

Nemeses

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Another Update

And for all of you leaders out there... We are still looking for admins and moderators.

Must know what they are doing (Trinity Core) and also have to be super chilled and not have an uptight attitude.

Drop me an email for the application
 

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would be really nice, if you host some other games locally that you can play without steam, then you most probably see me and some friends etc

something like left 2 dead server ,mw2 would be great!!
 

Nemeses

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would be really nice, if you host some other games locally that you can play without steam, then you most probably see me and some friends etc

something like left 2 dead server ,mw2 would be great!!

Well, our server is going to be hosted of an A-Symmetrical 4Mb Line.
This means that all people will have a 4Mb line speed to the server, no matter how many people join.

So, with that in mind, we are willing to host any amount of games. Infact, out plan was to hast a variety, and mainly games that people don't host, but want to play.

You can look forward to this in the near future.
 
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