Worst Service

Bluefinllama

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So we all know how bad a rap mechanics can get, but it seems to get worse - my apologies for the following thesis.

I took my 2012 Hyundai i10 in for it's 90000km service to a Kwik-Fit centre in Centurion - I had taken my car there previously for it's 75000km service as well and they had told me I needed to replace my lower control arms, but I couldn't afford to do so at that stage. Forward to last week Thursday, I take my car to them to get a quote for the 90000km service + a few extras, the following is the quote I received:

1 Major Service (oil, oil filter, air filter, aircon filter, plugs / fan belt) - R2650.00
1 Timming Chain - R3550.00
1 Water Pump - R1695.00
1 Thermostat - R595.00
1 Labour 8 Hours - R2400.00
2 Lower Control Arms - R2800.00
2 Wheel Bearings - R1950.00
1 Wheel Alignment 3D - R250.00
1 ABS Pump 3hrs lab only - R900.00
1 Brake Fluid - R120.00
1 Brake Pads-F - R850.00
2 Brake Disc-F - R1500.00 (I had 1 disc spare so only paid R750.00 on this and supplied the 1)

The total came to R18510.00.

So I knew the 90000km service, the lower control arms, the wheel bearings, abs pump (needed to be reconnected - I had it circumvented as I had previously had issues with my brakes - brake master cylinder had been replaced and at fault, but the pump was never reconnected) was all required, but the brakes and the discs were new to me, but alas I folded (too easily) and paid it hoping that once all the work was done that my car would be great again - they had taken almost an hour going through the suspension etc trying to see if any other work was required.

I was wrong, I arrived Friday morning at 07:30 as they had asked me to (with the promise all the work will be done quickly within the day), there was nobody at the shop - they eventually arrived and gave me a lift to work as promised. Halfway through the day I get a phone call stating that if they proceed with the work they might break my CV Joints and that will then cost me R1500.00 to replace as well (they admitted nothing was wrong with the them, they just couldn't get them removed as they had siezed - I asked them to get the work done and make sure not to break it as I couldn't afford R1500.00 extra - I had already borrowed money to do the service etc). I had also asked them to keep all the parts which were replaced and put them in my boot - they agreed to do so.

I had to then later that day phone them as I needed my car to get back home after work (yes, please note they never phoned me again), and they told me that the work will take another day and I should come pick it up the next day. I explained my situation and that they had promised they would be able to finish the work in a day, so we came to a compromise, the abs pump work as well as the wheel alignment + engine & car wash will be done on Monday (today).

So I picked up my car (my service schedule wasn't stamped, they promised to do this on the Monday as well), when doing so I was told there was a weird sound being made and the shocks would also have to be replaced, I once again explained I couldn't afford to do so, but on Monday the rest of the work which was paid for will have to be done. As I drove away I noticed that when I make a sharp left turn there is a scraping sound at the front left wheel (only when turning left and only front left wheel area), I tried to feel for any areas touching the wheel arch etc, but couldn't.

Fast forward to this morning (Monday) and again at 07:30 I am there, this time there are people at the shop this time around, but they don't acknowledge me until about 07:45, I explain to them why I am there, as well as the issue I had experienced when making a sharp left turn, they say they will look into it (keep in mind I didn't have this issue before I took my car in on Friday) - I also wait until 08:05 before I get a lift to work - even though there are people just standing around doing nothing.

So once again this afternoon (Monday) I had to phone them (at 15:37) to find out whether they are done, whether I can pick up my car etc. I get told they are busy test driving the car to find out what the left turn issue is, but that they will phone me back once the car is back at the shop, they didn't phone me back, I phoned them again at 16:18 (quite the joyride to figure out what the issue I experienced from a sharp left turn from a stationary position was). I was told the issue was both the shocks and now the stabilizers as well (an issue I hadn't previously experienced), but that I could come and pick the car up.

I get there at 16:40, I wait a bit for my keys - the car / engine bay had not been washed (whatever, I don't have time to wait for them to do so), I get in my car, almost drive away and remember to check for the service stamp as was promised, low and behold it wasn't there. I park again, go back inside and ask them to stamp it as promised, they take about 20 minutes because they can't stamp it unless they find the invoice etc.

So needless to say, I've had a horrid time.

I have a few questions - would it be prudent to go somewhere else for the shocks and stabilizers (at least for someone to take a look whether that is actually the problem), should I take my car to another place and ask them to do these things and also check to see whether the work I paid for looks like it was done (the parts of course as you can guess was never in the boot, I also didn't see any of them)? And then lastly, can anyone recommend anywhere in Centurion where I can go to get these done?

I appreciate anyone who has actually read through this and is willing to give any insight <3.
 
This one ?

Kwik-Fit Auto Centre
Shop 1 & 2, 118 Jakaranda St, Centurion, Pretoria, 0157
012 653 1804

Luckily never went past quote with them..

Can recommend Thomas @ Coachmans did great work on our Ford

Coachmans Auto Repair
137 Edward Ave, Hennopspark, Centurion, 0157
012 653 6689
 
Eish
Never knew Kwik Fit do such maintenance work on cars, thought they do Exhausts, and some suspension work.

Why though does your car need timing Chain and Waterpump replacement at such young kilos.
Sounds like you are being taken for a ride here and need another shop ASAP to have a look at your car.
 
Why did you did you have the timing chain replaced at 90k? That normally only needs to happen with belts, chains can go for a lot longer.
I honestly think you've been taken for a ride.
 
This one ?

Kwik-Fit Auto Centre
Shop 1 & 2, 118 Jakaranda St, Centurion, Pretoria, 0157
012 653 1804

Luckily never went past quote with them..

Can recommend Thomas @ Coachmans did great work on our Ford

Coachmans Auto Repair
137 Edward Ave, Hennopspark, Centurion, 0157
012 653 6689

That is the Kwik-Fit yes, I am glad you avoided that pitfall - a colleague always uses them and she's been happy so I falsely put more trust in them than I should've.

I will look into Coachmans, thanks.

@unobeat yes, they actually do such work, was also surprised, the timing chain is actually part of the 90k Hyundai service, could've probably skipped it (they are usually fine even till 150k), but decided to just get it over and done with, not sure about the water pump either though tbh, but might also be part of the 90k for Hyundai?
 
That is a lot of issues for 2012 Hyundai I10 with only 90k on the clock. That does not sound correct.

Timing chain which is unlikely probably a belt and that is due at 90k or 4 or 5 years I think. Lower control arms don't get replaced unless the bushes are worn in which case you can buy the bushes separate and have them pressed no need to to replace the whole arm unless the bushes doesn't get sold separately or the mechanic does not have a press.

Waterpump usually gets replaced whn the cambelt gets changed but it's not a serviceable part as per the schedule as far as I'm aware.

Thermostat once again is not a part that gets replaced on service intervals as per the manual

They are adding all these extra parts because of the cambelt change which is not necessary. I did it with my car once and regret it everyday. Changed cambelt and decided to do the waterpump to. 6 months later water pump leaking. I removed and threw away a genuine waterpump and replaced it with a part that finally just lasted 6 months.

Wheel bearings again I'm not sure but also I believe replaced if faulty. The front struts can last quite a long time the only thing that might wear is the strut mounts and they are inexpensive.

Sounds a bit too much for a 2012 at 90k
 
Yeah, could've skipped the chain, my biggest thing is all these extras which are apparently broken as well after they had checked the suspension - including the stabilizer which is now apparently causing a problem and didn't before. Also, what does one do when you ask for the parts which were replaced and you don't get it?
 
Yeah, could've skipped the chain, my biggest thing is all these extras which are apparently broken as well after they had checked the suspension - including the stabilizer which is now apparently causing a problem and didn't before. Also, what does one do when you ask for the parts which were replaced and you don't get it?
You realise you've been taken for a ride. The i10 has a chain, a chain rarely has to be replaced.
 
That is a lot of issues for 2012 Hyundai I10 with only 90k on the clock. That does not sound correct.

Timing chain which is unlikely probably a belt and that is due at 90k or 4 or 5 years I think. Lower control arms don't get replaced unless the bushes are worn in which case you can buy the bushes separate and have them pressed no need to to replace the whole arm unless the bushes doesn't get sold separately or the mechanic does not have a press.

Waterpump usually gets replaced whn the cambelt gets changed but it's not a serviceable part as per the schedule as far as I'm aware.

Thermostat once again is not a part that gets replaced on service intervals as per the manual

They are adding all these extra parts because of the cambelt change which is not necessary. I did it with my car once and regret it everyday. Changed cambelt and decided to do the waterpump to. 6 months later water pump leaking. I removed and threw away a genuine waterpump and replaced it with a part that finally just lasted 6 months.

Wheel bearings again I'm not sure but also I believe replaced if faulty. The front struts can last quite a long time the only thing that might wear is the strut mounts and they are inexpensive.

Sounds a bit too much for a 2012 at 90k

Well, I bought the car at 30k in 2014, when it was on the showroom the shocks were leaking - this was to be replaced and the car to be serviced before I took ownership of course, which happened. Then within the warranty still I once again had to get the shocks replaced by Hyundai - after I went and got the shocks tested so that I could prove to them they were faulty, they couldn't help me unless I did this. The lower control arms probably got damaged between the faulty shocks as well as a pothole or two over the years if I had to guess.

No idea whether the bushings are sold seperately, either way I can't really tell since I didn't get the parts which were apparently replaced.

I was pretty much just trying to get my car back into good shape again, but yeah, I already regret it as well.
 
You realise you've been taken for a ride. The i10 has a chain, a chain rarely has to be replaced.

Yeah, but if the chain does snap however it does cause big issues - fear drove me to make a stupid decision I guess, the guy did mention that the chain should be fine until 150k, but I decided to replace it anyway, that was my own stupidity.
 
Wait why did you buy it if the shocks were leaking at 30k on the showroom? That's walk away, straight away.
 
Yeah, but if the chain does snap however it does cause big issues - fear drove me to make a stupid decision I guess, the guy did mention that the chain should be fine until 150k, but I decided to replace it anyway, that was my own stupidity.
They rarely do snap and what if the new one snaps? You were worried over nothing, a chain rarely has to be replaced it's not a rubber belt. As long as it's lubricated it probably would go 200 to 300k easily.
 
Because I was young and naive - it was a good price, under warranty. low mileage and apparently (not sure if I believe this) accident free. It was bought from a Hyundai dealer as well, which filled me with false hope I guess.
 
And so we learn - won't happen again, was an expensive lesson I guess.
I'm thinking the car was the expensive lesson, this was just extra unfortunately :(. Good luck hope you come right, maybe also Google a few things on your car, open the bonnet check them out.
Learn a bit on it, so when you go to macs you're a little less naive, the more you know on your own car the better you'll be.
 
I'm thinking the car was the expensive lesson, this was just extra unfortunately :(. Good luck hope you come right, maybe also Google a few things on your car, open the bonnet check them out.
Learn a bit on it, so when you go to macs you're a little less naive, the more you know on your own car the better you'll be.

Sound advice - should've done so ages ago.
 
Stay away from the fitment centres for doing major mechanical repairs. For exhausts, alignment and such they are fine, but when it comes to mechanical repairs get a good trusted mechanic to do them.
 
They rarely do snap and what if the new one snaps? You were worried over nothing, a chain rarely has to be replaced it's not a rubber belt. As long as it's lubricated it probably would go 200 to 300k easily.

Agree
My Toyota Auris is sitting on 235 000km and the engine uses chain.
The chain is not rattling or making any funny noises and what i know is that oil services are very critical to keep the chain well lubricated with fresh oil.
 
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