Wug Experience

Please dont get me wrong,.. I am sure there are some really nice people as well as admins on the PTA WUG,... and there might be some bad apples there to.
As there is in any organization

I just think one can handle complaints etc differently to:
The evidence I am talking about is concerning your first post.

'Where's the evidence to support your claims/complaints?'

I am sure great companies/communities/people do things differently,.. but i might be wrong,... and its only an opinion.
The City of Pretoria is smaller than JHB, Durban and Cape Town, yet PTAWUG is bigger than Jawug, DWC and CTWUG, are we doing something right or wrong ?
 
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Ek is huidiglik 'n PTAWUG user van ongeveer Jan 2009.
My ondervinding van WUG is iets wat ek nie gou gaan vergeet nie.

Ek was al op DW (Die Wilgers),CP(Constantia Park) en het later besluit om toe self 'n HS op terig nl. Koedoeberg met die help van 'n paar ander users.

By elke site leer mens iets nuut van die WUG, ontmoet nuwe mense en hoe die WUG eintlik werk.
Ek maintain steets KB HS al is ek net 'n normale user wat wys dat enige iemand (al is jy net 17) iets kan doen vir WUG.

Ek het meer geleer oor netwerke op WUG as in skool (Ek is nog op skool ja :( ) en hoop om steets meer te leer.

Ek is bly ek het betrokke geraak by WUG en hoop dat meer van die 600+ users ook ophou lui wees en van hulle gatte sal afklim en help om WUG meer awesome te maak.

My onderfinding van die admins is dat almal hulle self dood werk en dat 80%+ van die users nie eers weet hoe harde werk dit is nie en dan gaan moan users oor iets mal soos "Ek kry net 4mb/s(32mbps) fix dit NOU!".
As jy will kla oor iets fkn try eers dit self fix,los die admins uit hulle doen reeds alles, raak betrokke en hou op om op jou gat te sit en leech.

Om af te sluit will ek se dat WUG AWESOME is en ek stel dit voor aan enige iemand indien hulle betrokke will raak en meer will leer.

As jy vrae het oor enige iets kom net op IRC, want notepad is awesome, maar 'n multiplayer notepad soos IRC is awesome^2.

Skaapie
AKA Gamma
 
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Did i say anyone is useless? did i call anyone evil? did i say its badly run?

My sincere appologies if so,... maybe i expressed myself badly,.. maybe,...

All i wanted to say is that I thought that the complaints of a user where haddled badly by some.

I think its funny how some take it personally rather than try make it productive critisim. Infact,.. i am still laughing at them.

I guess,... complaints unless you have hard evidence is not welcome. you'll be flamed LOL

Dont even express an opinion,.. some might take it personally LOL
 
I think WUG is great,... I support it,... but dont complain,... you might get some emo guys takig things personally rather than them just reading a complaint and asking themselves if they want to do something about it.

LOL
 
These issues remind me of school prefects (admins) that don't know how to use this 'new found power' and start becoming a 'false elite'.
useless

No matter what reasons the admins might have about 'the stupid users' - it must be very embarrassing to have people post issues such as the WUG becoming segmented between admins and users.
badly run


As is stated on ptawug.co.za and the internal wiki - IRC is the main comms medium of PTAWUG, all issues, complaints, plans, problems are to be sorted out there. It's the fastest way of getting responses, in fact, most issues and problems are sommer resolved by users helping their fellow users in #ptawug.

I guess,... complaints unless you have hard evidence is not welcome. you'll be flamed LOL
yes. complaining without having proof/evidence/example of what you are complaining about is quite useless.
 
I think WUG is great,... I support it,... but dont complain,... you might get some emo guys takig things personally rather than them just reading a complaint and asking themselves if they want to do something about it.

LOL
have you ever been on IRC, seeing how problems are resolved ?
as for the emo part, wtf ?

As for solmed's complaint, he was told exactly, repeatedly what to do to resolve the problem, by different people. Yet he refuses to do so, who's fault is that then ?

Let me paste for you an example of IRC, somme this morning:
[07:36:44] <C> Ek's nuut hier - dink om te join - moet nog sien of ek LOS het
[07:37:00] * Quits: chaps[H] ([email protected]) (Ping timeout)
[07:37:21] <C> vaalpens is lyk my die naaste aan my: .51km
[07:37:39] <ProtZkroG[w]> wel
[07:37:45] <ProtZkroG[w]> soos op ptawug.co.za staan
[07:37:49] <ProtZkroG[w]> jy moet LOS check na HIGHSITES toe
[07:37:53] <ProtZkroG[w]> Pin Oak Highsite
[07:37:56] <ProtZkroG[w]> Mooikloof highsite
[07:37:58] <ProtZkroG[w]> Epox Highsite
[07:38:00] <ProtZkroG[w]> JINX Highsite
[07:38:01] <ProtZkroG[w]> etc.
[07:38:47] <C> so ek kan nie direk met vaalpens connect nie? - want dis wat ek uit die prentjies gekry het?
[07:38:48] * Joins: Russian ([email protected])
[07:39:20] * Russian is now known as Russian[GP]
[07:40:52] <C> Wingate Park Highsite (WP)
[07:41:07] * Quits: RAADMIN[w] ([email protected]) (QUIT: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451])
[07:41:10] <C> volgens: http://www.wug.za.net/wnethome.php?sid=c228204e2727baa78047fcbefdf9f69a
[07:41:14] <ProtZkroG[w]> kyk op die google earth kml
[07:41:16] <C> het ek line of site
[07:41:36] <ProtZkroG[w]> Wingate Park is backbone only
[07:41:38] * Quits: Maya_the_B ([email protected]) (Ping timeout)
[07:41:39] <ProtZkroG[w]> hy broadcast nie
[07:45:47] <ProtZkroG[w]> en na Mooikloof
[07:45:49] <ProtZkroG[w]> en Pin Oak
[07:45:59] <ProtZkroG[w]> in watse area woon jy
[07:46:38] <C> elardus park
[07:47:09] <Hellhound> dan is dit JINX of BC of WG
[07:47:46] * Quits: Entropy ([email protected]) (QUIT: )
[07:48:17] * Joins: Falieb[w] ([email protected])
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[07:48:38] <ProtZkroG[w]> of Elardus Park Higshtei
[07:48:45] <ProtZkroG[w]> het jy al jou fotos opgelaai ?
[07:49:45] <C> nee - hoe doen ek dit?
[07:50:00] * Joins: Kritaan ([email protected])
[07:50:05] * Parts: Kritaan ([email protected])
[07:50:19] <ProtZkroG[w]> klim op jou dak
[07:50:21] <ProtZkroG[w]> neem fotos 360
[07:50:47] <ProtZkroG[w]> gaan na jou node op wug.za.net onder die node se settings onder pictures en upload daar
[07:51:31] * Quits: Maya_the_B ([email protected]) (Ping timeout)
[07:52:43] <ProtZkroG[w]> was jy al op die dak ?
[07:52:46] * Quits: jacqueso ([email protected]) (Ping timeout)
[07:52:51] * Joins: jacqueso ([email protected])
[07:53:01] <C> ek sien nie die node nie?
[07:53:25] <ProtZkroG[w]> was jy al op die dak ?
[07:53:35] <ProtZkroG[w]> wug.za.net -> wugnet -> my locations
[07:53:42] <C> nee nog nie
[07:54:32] <Hellhound> jy kan try vir BC,WG,RV
[07:54:43] * Quits: Reaper ([email protected]) (Ping timeout)
[07:54:44] <Hellhound> nie seker RV het sector die kant toe nie
[07:54:55] <Hellhound> jou LOS na jinx sal nie werk nie
[07:55:29] * Quits: nOs ([email protected]) (QUIT: )
[07:55:41] * Joins: Bloax_ ([email protected])
[07:55:57] <Hellhound> http://www.wug.za.net/newlos2.php?fl=12347&tl=3023
[08:00:38] <ProtZkroG[w]> C ?
[08:01:35] * Joins: Nismo[W] ([email protected])
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[08:02:07] <C> hi
[08:02:12] <C> wat presies moet ek upload?
[08:02:16] <C> pictures?
[08:02:19] * Joins: PluralFish ([email protected])
[08:02:38] <Russian[GP]> ja
[08:02:44] <ProtZkroG[w]> www.ptawug.co.za
[08:02:45] <ProtZkroG[w]> getting started
[08:02:47] <ProtZkroG[w]> section 2
[08:02:48] <ProtZkroG[w]> lees hom
[08:02:55] <ProtZkroG[w]> LOS = line of sight = sien met die oog
[08:03:02] <ProtZkroG[w]> ons kan nie sien wat jy kan sien nie, omdat ons nie op jou dak is nie
[08:03:07] <ProtZkroG[w]> maar as jy nfoto neem van wat jy kan sien
[08:03:09] <ProtZkroG[w]> en upload
[08:03:11] <ProtZkroG[w]> kan ons sien wat jy kan sien
[08:52:08] <C> Hi Protzkrog - Ek het die foto's opgelaai - kan jy daarna kyk?
[08:53:21] <ProtZkroG[w]> gee die direkte links na die images
[08:53:52] * Joins: thetod ([email protected])
[08:54:23] * Joins: wollie[w] ([email protected])
[08:54:49] * Joins: mossie[w] ([email protected])
[08:55:05] <C> http://www.wug.za.net/pics/los/682_IMG_2398.JPG
[08:56:07] <ProtZkroG[w]> err ok
[08:56:12] <ProtZkroG[w]> ek sien n selfoon toring
[08:56:13] <ProtZkroG[w]> en n boom
[08:56:35] <C> http://www.wug.za.net/pics/los/683_IMG_2399.JPG
[08:57:06] * Joins: Hook[w] ([email protected])
[08:57:14] <ProtZkroG[w]> ek sien n radio amateur toring
[08:57:36] <ProtZkroG[w]> woon jy naby aan Biotite straat
[08:58:11] <C> laat ek gou op 'n kaar boek kyk
[08:58:14] <C> kaart
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THANK YOU ADMINS of Ptawug i was wugged on sunday but for the Past month i was hounding admins with Stupid newbee questions and not once was I insulted or looked down upon, I as a newbee was treated on par with Admins' and when it was time to get my IP I asked a few admins and within literally seconds I was helped. Thought the admin helping me forgot cause he said wait a sec and it was five minutes and no reply, i asked him if he was there and he was very polite and told me hold on a little longer and within a minute he replied with my IP's not only that but he setup my RB with the IP's for me. Thanks pigdog, Protzkrog, RomeOs and all the other admin's. And to think they do all this for free
 
WUG is awesome

I joined PTAWUG seven weeks ago and must admit, it has been the best investment I've made in years.

I've learned more from the WUG and its community about technical stuff (wireless networks, OSPF, BGP, routing, NATing, etc) than I've learned in the past few years.

People who complain about the WUG joined it for the wrong reasons or wrong intentions. It's like booking a stay in a guesthouse and then complaining about the lack of room service - if you wanted room service, you should've booked into a hotel, NOT a guesthouse.

So to all those bitchin' an' moanin' people, first learn what the WUG is about, before complaining because it isn't what YOU want it to be.

Thanks to all the admins busting their guts to keep the whole WUG running. And to all the users who donate time, money and resources to help grow the WUG. It's an awesome concept, run in an awesome, actually very effective, manner.

Hobbes
 
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Actually,.. reading all the threads again,.. there is only on admin I think is ,... nvm

Happy evidence gathering,... I am soo happy to have wasted your time by having you dig some some IRC transscript,... that I would be amazed to find anyone would want to read.

congratz to you.
 
Please post more evidence,...

I will look at it some time,... i promise LOL
 
wtf is up with you and your ",..." in elke fkn post?
Dit pis my af tbh : /
If you want to say something, say it! Don't just go ",..." because that is just a waste of space.
 
...

Its an ellipsis, it means that the sentence should "complete itself"...
:)
 
Dunno, its habit i think. you have a point though. I shouldn't abuse punctuation, grammar or syntax for that matter.

Will improve going forward.

Ty
 
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