You have issues...

StonerStuart said:
That is a sedative... So what does it not work for? Depression?
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Anxiety. Relaxes you so when you go into uncomfortable situation your heart rate does not accelerate. It doesn't fix the root it only masks it :D. I used to be on benzo's for anxiety but i abused them. I would chill at home and drop 5 or 6 and feel like a champion LOL

Then i was going to a U2 concert and i popped them all night and drank, i fell down stairs ended up in the medical room and needed stitches. Then i quit hahah because i was not in control.
 
killadoob said:
Anxiety. Relaxes you so when you go into uncomfortable situation your heart rate does not accelerate. It doesn't fix the root it only masks it :D. I used to be on benzo's for anxiety but i abused them. I would chill at home and drop 5 or 6 and feel like a champion LOL

Then i was going to a U2 concert and i popped them all night and drank, i fell down stairs ended up in the medical room and needed stitches. Then i quit hahah because i was not in control.
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I have a few sedatives in my house now.

Temazepam
Zopiclone
Zolpidem

Would never think of taking them out of my house though...


hhmmmmmmm.........
 
killadoob said:
Rubbish, if people don't enjoy things other people do it doesn't mean they need drugs and psychoanalysis.

Granted it depends on the person but way too many people are put on drugs for disorders they do not have.
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Differences in activity choices is not the issue of concern. It is the difficulty Stuart has in connecting socially. We are social animals Killadoob, and when we don't or can't get along with others (for any vast number of reasons) something is wrong.
 
WatchMan said:
Differences in activity choices is not the issue of concern. It is the difficulty Stuart has in connecting socially. We are social animals Killadoob, and when we don't or can't get along with others (for any vast number of reasons) something is wrong.
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Perhaps but i have no issues connecting with people in my work, i am a sales rep and i do artwork as well plus i run the print house. I deal with around 5-10 new people on a quite day, plus i go see clients and i have no issues connecting with them.

Where i have a problem is when i have to go out, i find people for the most boring and i hate talking shyte to people. I do it in my job because it's needed but sitting around a braai talking shyte is not my thing so i stay clear of those types of events and as such i am branded anti social. Now tell me do i need drugs to help me?

When i drink or sniff something lekka i am a power house of shyte talking though haha so drugs do help but i don't enjoy the social side of life, i just cannot understand why i need help but i get told i do.
 
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killadoob said:
Perhaps but i have no issues connecting with people in my work, i am a sales rep and i do artwork as well plus i run the print house. I deal with around 5-10 new people on a quite day, plus i go see clients and i have no issues connecting with them.

Where i have a problem is when i have to go out, i find people for the most boring and i hate talking shyte to people. I do it in my job because it's needed but sitting around a braai talking shyte is not my thing so i stay clear of those types of events and as such i am branded anti social. Now tell me do i need drugs to help me?

When i drink or sniff something lekka i am a power house of shyte talking though haha so drugs do help but i don't enjoy the social side of life, i just cannot understand why i need help but i get told i do.
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If we're talking about depression and social anxiety, then yes, there is a problem that needs to be addressed. If you remove the depression and anxiety and you still prefer your own company that's fine. From personal experience I can say that even if you are just natural introverted, depression and anxiety causes people to miss out on meeting people they would find interesting. It also just makes normal passing social interactions an unpleasant experience.

Even if someone is introverted almost everyone wants a romantic partner. To get one of those you have to be able to put yourself in social situations were you have to socialise with people you might not find that interesting.

Introverted or not you have to at least feel comfortable with other people.

And, killa, you must see the irony in your last paragraph, surely?
 
Incidently, I don't advocate medication for depression and anxiety unless you're at a point that requires hospitalisation.
 
I do dude but my personality changes massively from the time i start drinking, i am loud, chatty and my confidence is through the roof.

The trouble is most anti depressants are not nearly as powerful as illegal drugs and alcohol, i know friends who sniff khat(not sure the spelling) 24/7. The first thing they do in the morning is smash a line or two and they keep going. So i understand drugs can help but i have been on many anti depressants none of them do what khat does because they are not powerful enough. You also then become reliant on drugs to be something that you otherwise would not be. Then you have to deal with side effects, addiction and so on, so i would rather just be myself even if that means i am little shy and don't enjoy social functions.

Drugs only mask your issues they do not solve them, the best route is a life coach who will teach you how to deal with those situations and guide you because that is natural but again if social functions bore a person they do not need help. Of course someone who shytes themselves at the thought of human contact should get drug help :D because that is a major issue haha but even then you cannot help that person with drugs, they need more than just a pill everyday.
 
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killadoob said:
I do dude but my personality changes massively from the time i start drinking, i am loud, chatty and my confidence is through the roof.

The trouble is most anti depressants are not nearly as powerful as illegal drugs and alcohol, i know friends who sniff khat(not sure the spelling) 24/7. The first thing they do in the morning is smash a line or two and they keep going. So i understand drugs can help but i have been on many anti depressants none of them do what khat does because they are not powerful enough. You also then become reliant on drugs to be something that you otherwise would not be. Then you have to deal with side effects, addiction and so on, so i would rather jus bet myself even if that means i am little shy and don't enjoy social functions.

Drugs only mask your issues they do not solve them, the best route is a life coach who will teach you how to deal with those situations and guide you because that is natural but again if social functions bore a person they do not need help. Of course someone who shytes themselves at the thought of human contact should get drug help :D because that is a major issue haha but even then you cannot help that person with drugs, they need more than just a pill everyday.
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Well, like I said, I don't actually think medication is any sort of solution. Perhaps, if someone has a problem going to work or something.
I also don't have much faith in psycho-therapy. The whole industry is based on billing people for hours of therapy. There is no incentive for psychologists to cure people. But, also I don't think talking about your problems endlessly and your childhood is a way to solve anything. I think every normal person is capable of relating to themselves and others in a healthy way despite their upbringing and that the only way to do that is by identifying self defeating thought patterns and stopping them.

I hesitate somewhat advocating meditation as a very effective cure for mental problems because there is a lot of religious and new age BS surrounding it, but there is a lot of evidence that shows that it is an effective cure, specifically for anxiety and depression. As a sufferer myself I know that they are symptoms of an out of control, overly busy mind.
 
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