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I think this is an awesome venture. I wish I'd thought of it first *g*

Can you imagine company after company digging up the same stretch of road endlessly. At least now there'll be some centralised common sense and planning involved.
 
carudden said:
:eek: Impossible. This reeks of the famous Bill Gates 64K RAM bull.
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Agreed. There is no such thing as enough. In telecoms, if you build it, they WILL come!

I will gladly take up any spare capacity for scientific use... p2p to all my friends baby!
 
carudden said:
:eek: Impossible. This reeks of the famous Bill Gates 64K RAM bull.
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I don't believe that is what they are implying.

We are coming out of such a big 'bandwidth drought' that many companies are just laying fiber everywhere and don't seem to be doing huge amounts of capacity planning. A similar thing happened in the US during the dotcom boom and there are some shocking statistics that I've seen of the amount of fiber that is unlit in the US soil due to lack of need or bankrupt operators.

At the end of the day un-lit fiber only costs a little less than lit fibre and if capacity can be optomised then we will all benefit from better telecoms prices.

The other important issue that they touched on is making one set of trenches for everyone. The ground underneath our cities is already a rat's nest of power, water, gas, sewerage, stormwater and Telkom networks. Why make that worse with 6-12 new independent networks? Knowing the efficiency of our municipal building departments they are going to end up with incomplete and inaccurate plans for the networks and we end up with more backhoe failures on the fiber circuits for every new strand of fiber that an operator wants to lay.
 
CIV director Richard Came
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What were this guys patents thinking when they named him... For those that don't know, the shortened name for Richard is D!ick.
 
eltherza said:
So, Dark fibre charges Neotel for the line, who then charges us for the line? This might be expensive...
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By putting a few puzzle pieces together I think you'll find that Dark Fibre is already the subcontractor responsible for laying some of Neotel's fiber. I'm not sure that anything will change in terms of who buys what from who.
 
Yes everyone stop laying fibre and just let Dark Fibre Africa do it!

Im sure theyll then charge super cheap rental prices, because thats what monopolies do! :sick:

Sure, contract Dark Fibre Africa to lay the fibre, but we def dont want one company owning all SA's new fibre.
 
Who ever is putting fibre in have not put in any cable to my house, yet....
 
While I have some concerns about a single company laying the fibre optic cabling, it does make sense to dig a single trench and put lots of fibre optic cabling into that trench.

Also with SA's severe & prolonged bandwidth drought - caused by Telkodemonopolies & guavamentalists riding the gravy train [apt description there ambo :)], a single company contracted to lay fibre for multiple network operators in the same areas, will move things along much quicker than all the network operators doing it independently.

The only thing that puzzles me, is whether or not Dark Fibre Africa actually needs an ECNS licence since it owns the actual network infrastructure [fibre optic cables etc] - presumably Dark Fibre Africa will effectively be seen as a sub-contractor company by !CASA - as was suggested by Dene Smuts with regard to Infraco being a sub-contractor under NeeTel's licence...maybe dominic can comment on this?

This is certainly going to prove to be very good for Vodacom Business, and should be good for all of Vodacom's customer in the long term.
 
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