Yusuf Abramjee tweet

to be honest, I don't think Jews are being targeted at Primedia. Benita Levin, Mandy Weiner - both Jewish.
The others have just moved on...
 
Strange can't see where that was posted in this thread :confused:

You where likening the ANC to Hamas because they targeted civilians. My rebuttal would be that both the Israeli Defence Force and SADF targeted civilians too. Perhaps if those two armed forces had retained their humanity the oppressed wouldn't feel the need to resort to terrorism.
 
You where likening the ANC to Hamas because they targeted civilians. My rebuttal would be that both the Israeli Defence Force and SADF targeted civilians too. Perhaps if those two armed forces had retained their humanity the oppressed wouldn't feel the need to resort to terrorism.

Absolute bulshiit and total garbage but I know you know it!. Study the meaning of collateral damage!
 
Absolute bulshiit and total garbage but I know you know it!. Study the meaning of collateral damage!

Collateral damage is a convenient excuse when armed forces don't care about civilian casualties.
 
In your mind sure! Shame!

By all means, am dying to hear how you excuse the civilian deaths in Gaza or all the civilian deaths causes by the SADF within South Africa during the 80's.
 
By all means, am dying to hear how you excuse the civilian deaths in Gaza or all the civilian deaths causes by the SADF within South Africa during the 80's.

Shame! I hope you have a funeral policy and if your nick refers to a computer you missed the boat by far!
 
Shame! I hope you have a funeral policy and if your nick refers to a computer you missed the boat by far!

Personal insults and no constructive addition to the discussion, am not surprised you have Che as your avatar. If the best you can do is to get personal then I will withdraw from engaging with you.
 
So what is it called when armed terrorists INTEND civilian casualties?

I would call it terrorism. The problem is that people have a tendency to simply label terrorism as evil rather than the desperate act of people that feel they have no other choice. It's far easier to label people as evil than to understand them isn't it. Never mind that Jewish paramilitary groups engaged in terrorism before the formation of Israel but that is glossed over because Jews are predominantly white and western and everyone likes to associate terrorism with Arabs and Islam.
 
I would call it terrorism. The problem is that people have a tendency to simply label terrorism as evil rather than the desperate act of people that feel they have no other choice. It's far easier to label people as evil than to understand them isn't it. Never mind that Jewish paramilitary groups engaged in terrorism before the formation of Israel but that is glossed over because Jews are predominantly white and western and everyone likes to associate terrorism with Arabs and Islam.

Rightly so! You just have to see and read the news to come to that simple conclusion!
 
Collateral damage is a convenient excuse when armed forces don't care about civilian casualties.

Not caring about civilian casualties is a long way from targetting civilians. Accepting that there will be collateral damage is also not the same as not caring about civilian casualties.

Not a single SADF member has been charged with war crimes.
 
I would call it terrorism. The problem is that people have a tendency to simply label terrorism as evil rather than the desperate act of people that feel they have no other choice. It's far easier to label people as evil than to understand them isn't it. Never mind that Jewish paramilitary groups engaged in terrorism before the formation of Israel but that is glossed over because Jews are predominantly white and western and everyone likes to associate terrorism with Arabs and Islam.

They were called terrorists and dealt with as such by the British forces in the Palestine.
 
Maybe today the majority are, but that has not always been the case.

The majority are just that the majority. Now that you admitted that explain what you are on about then!

Are you compassionate and open towards terrorism as a method or way to get to a means no matter how ridiculous it is!
 
They were called terrorists and dealt with as such by the British forces in the Palestine.

And given service ribbons by the Israeli defence force for "service for the establishment of the Israeli state". Seems that Israel doesn't;t have a problem with terrorism if it furthers their own ends.
 
The majority are just that the majority. Now that you admitted that explain what you are on about then!

Are you compassionate and open towards terrorism as a method or way to get to a means no matter how ridiculous it is!

No, I just feel that the Israeli state is hypocritical in it's condemnation of terrorism when the actions of it's own defence force have come under criticism for the death of civilians in Gaza.

Also am not arrogant enough to assume I know what I would do if I was part of a people that had been oppressed for so long.

Tell me this, do you believe terrorism is ever justified, do you believe the black people of this country should have meekly accepted the way the apartheid government treated them?
 
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Not caring about civilian casualties is a long way from targetting civilians. Accepting that there will be collateral damage is also not the same as not caring about civilian casualties.

Not a single SADF member has been charged with war crimes.

Wouter Basson and the elimination of SWAPO prisoners? Agree in this case they weren't civilians but the murder of POW's is certainly worthy of being called a war crime.
 
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