Zuma assault case complete

Fudzy said:
Huh? Where did you read that?
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Dude seriously it isn't that complex. A suspended sentence is one where you don't actually go to prison. He has been sentenced to 2 years suspended over 5 years. That means he doesn't go to prison immediately but if he is naughty within the next 5 years he will go to prison for those 2 years in addition to whatever else he is sentenced to with the new offence.

If the 5 years elapses and he hasn't committed a similar offence within that time the sentence is finished. He never goes to prison. Duh.
 
porchrat said:
Dude seriously it isn't that complex. A suspended sentence is one where you don't actually go to prison. He has been sentenced to 2 years suspended over 5 years. That means he doesn't go to prison immediately but if he is naughty within the next 5 years he will go to prison for those 2 years in addition to whatever else he is sentenced to with the new offence.

If the 5 years elapses and he hasn't committed a similar offence within that time the sentence is finished. He never goes to prison. Duh.
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Don't think it's that simple but okay, you're a lawyer so you should know this stuff.
 
BBSA said:
Just google "Suspended Sentence" and educate yourself.
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Well that still doesn't explain why the judge handed down a sentence of 2 years IN prison as well as a 5 year suspended sentence. Show me another case where there is a similar double sentencing please.
 
Fudzy said:
Don't think it's that simple but okay, you're a lawyer so you should know this stuff.
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This isn't lawyer stuff this is common knowledge.

That is like when you're watching a game of cricket on TV saying "OK you make it sound simple when you insist that this sport we're watching on TV now is in fact cricket and not rugby but you must be some sort of professional cricket player so you should know this stuff".

Are you honestly telling me you've never heard of a suspended sentence? I knew what a suspended sentence was when I was a young teenager forget an adult. :wtf:
 
porchrat said:
This isn't lawyer stuff this is common knowledge.

That is like when you're watching a game of cricket on TV saying "OK you make it sound simple when you insist that this sport we're watching on TV now is in fact cricket and not rugby but you must be some sort of professional cricket player so you should know this stuff".

Are you honestly telling me you've never heard of a suspended sentence? I knew what a suspended sentence was when I was a young teenager forget an adult. :wtf:
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See my quote above.

A friend of mine was convicted on drug possession, he got a 5 year suspended sentence, no mention of any additional sentence.
 
Fudzy said:
Well that still doesn't explain why the judge handed down a sentence of 2 years IN prison as well as a 5 year suspended sentence. Show me another case where there is a similar double sentencing please.
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What are you talking about?

The High Court in Johannesburg changed his sentencing on appeal to two years in prison, suspended for five years, Beeld newspaper reported.
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Read the part in bold you muppet.

He was sentenced to 2 years suspended over 5. Duh.
 
Fudzy said:
See my quote above.

A friend of mine was convicted on drug possession, he got a 5 year suspended sentence, no mention of any additional sentence.
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No you can't be convicted of a plain old 5 year suspended sentence. That is meaningless. It has to be a sentence of a particular duration suspended over a particular duration. Your friend either didn't understand what was being said to him or he didn't give you both time durations.

From that you can tell that if he screws up again within the next 5 years his sentence will come into effect and he will go to prison. What you don't know is how long he will go away for.

EDIT: Either that or if he commits and offence within an unspecified time he will go away for 5 years. One or the other.
 
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porchrat said:
No you can't be convicted of a plain old 5 year suspended sentence. That is meaningless. It has to be a sentence of a particular duration suspended over a particular duration. Your friend either didn't understand what was being said to him or he didn't give you both time durations.
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No you bellend, the sentence was 5 years, suspended. I'll try find his news article, in the mean time, help BBSA out and find another news article where they mention a suspended sentence plus a prison sentence.

porchrat said:
From that you can tell that if he screws up again within the next 5 years his sentence will come into effect and he will go to prison. What you don't know is how long he will go away for.
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Well if you read the original article he was meant to be put away for 5 years on the manslaughter charge.

If this thread is going to go like the one on circumcision, I'm gonna stop fuelling your post count now.
 
Fudzy said:
No you bellend, the sentence was 5 years, suspended.
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OK so if he buggers up within whatever duration the sentence was suspended for he will go away for 5 years.


I'll try find his news article, in the mean time, help BBSA out and find another news article where they mention a suspended sentence plus a prison sentence.
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Good luck with that. It could happen I suppose but in the case of the guy that shot the toddler that isn't the case.


Well if you read the original article he was meant to be put away for 5 years on the manslaughter charge.

If this thread is going to go like the one on circumcision, I'm gonna stop fuelling your post count now.
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Dude I'm trying to teach you something. Ignore it if you want but if you want to learn what a suspended sentence is (and I think it is important that all citizens should) then read up on it because right now you're demonstrating ignorance of it.
 
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BBSA said:
What do you mean?


His 2 year sentence is suspended for 5 yeas. It means he will not go to jail except if he commits the same crime in a 5 year period.
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There was a bit more context to Fudzy's statement. I had written some rubbish and he was responding to that.
 
I clicked on this thread and then glanced up to the top of my browser and saw : mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/274184-Zuma-assault-case-complete, but instead of "showthread", I read "showerhead".

LOL'd my ass off.
 
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