Zuma backs De la Rey

Yes it could happen but what are the chances?
I have shown you at least five former unionist who have set their sights firmly on accumulating wealth and they have pretty much said to hell with the workers. I don't see how you expect JZ to bend over backwards to accomodate Cosatu when their own leaders deserted them.

I did not dispute that, however, I provided a counter-argument, which you have not addressed. Reiterating your old argument, is not going to progress this debate. I suggest you try to counter my point.

Perceptions held by people in this forums differ markedly with those of international investors. The latter usually base their fears on facts whereas the former base theirs on media fiction.

How do you explain today's tumbling rand?

The world sadly does not revolve around our problems and our leaders. If markets tumble usually they do so due to other market factors outside of our control. As a developing nation we are most vulnerable to market instability throuout the developing world. Even if Tony Leon was our president.

Just a quick question for you, Bageloo. Where do you think international investors get their facts from? Surely not that same sensational media, like that naughty BBC who broadcast that completely dishonest report on crime the day before the state of the nation address to discredit our government.

Please also learn to argue. I did not say that leadership was a necessary condition for the rand to fall. In other words, just because the rand fell does not disprove my position. I feel I have provided adequate prove by citing the Mboweni example. If you want to disprove my theory, I suggest you find a counter-argument to that.

Really now Bageloo, this is primary school level debating.
 
Okay, so what has that got to do with South Africa, that is a totally different country, anyway the point I was trying to make is that, if we remove the number of whites who have left the country ( as we do not know why these people have left ) the figures show that there is a higher incedence of unemployment among blacks than whites, also there are many non-white people who have also left the country, to pursue careers elsewhere.

xtermin8or

Best is for you to just get with what is going on in this country. It's people like you that drive the White people from South Africa and make them work for places like the UK, Australia & USA. And yes their econnomy is booming because of it. Carry on, one day you'll be left alone in the country you want and you'll just be another ZIM.... Good luck with that.

O Ja... I'm Going to the UK to work for O2 atleast there is no AA. They want people who can work not people that is there to make the numbers full ! :p
 
xtermin8or

Best is for you to just get with what is going on in this country. It's people like you that drive the White people from South Africa and make them work for places like the UK, Australia & USA. And yes their econnomy is booming because of it. Carry on, one day you'll be left alone in the country you want and you'll just be another ZIM.... Good luck with that.

O Ja... I'm Going to the UK to work for O2 atleast there is no AA. They want people who can work not people that is there to make the numbers full ! :p

nee, boet, miskien moet jy bietjie wakker skrik, die ekonomie in Suid Afrika is besig om te groei, is dit omdat, die lui wittes, die land verlaat het, ek onthou toe 'n kollega na Engeland getrek het, die gesprek in die kantoor was ' jy sal daar lekker inpas, hulle is almal mos so lui '

So Pitbull, geniet dit daar hoor, jy sal mos lekker inpas
 
xtermin8or

Best is for you to just get with what is going on in this country. It's people like you that drive the White people from South Africa and make them work for places like the UK, Australia & USA. And yes their econnomy is booming because of it. Carry on, one day you'll be left alone in the country you want and you'll just be another ZIM.... Good luck with that.

O Ja... I'm Going to the UK to work for O2 atleast there is no AA. They want people who can work not people that is there to make the numbers full ! :p
So many other people are headed for the UK not just you. No one is driving white people away, they are leaving at their own accord usually for greener pastures like everybody else. People are moving to the UK from all corners of the globe it's not just the white South Africans. Your new colegues are likely to be from places like Ghana, Kenya, Nigeria, India, Pakistan, Poland, Lithuania etc. If you have a skill you are entitled to sell it where it will yield maximum returns. So many people with skills are also headed for South Africa from Zim and the neighbouring countries.

The world is becoming one global village where people move around with little restrictions. No one is forcing you to work in any one partcular country. Everyone is free to roam the earth as much as they like.
 
So many other people are headed for the UK not just you. No one is driving white people away, they are leaving at their own accord usually for greener pastures like everybody else. People are moving to the UK from all corners of the globe it's not just the white South Africans. Your new colegues are likely to be from places like Ghana, Kenya, Nigeria, India, Pakistan, Poland, Lithuania etc. If you have a skill you are entitled to sell it where it will yield maximum returns. So many people with skills are also headed for South Africa from Zim and the neighbouring countries.

The world is becoming one global village where people move around with little restrictions. No one is forcing you to work in any one partcular country. Everyone is free to roam the earth as much as they like.

Now this post make sense. Your right !

Strange place this world is becoming :p
 
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