Linux release festival begins during October

Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu! Linux MInt Debian Edition is based on Debian. They are two seperate entities of Linux Mint
 
10/10/10 -> 101010 binary = 42 decimal, the answer to the question of life the universe and everything!
 
I was born on the 10/10 at 10:10.... Some significant gonna happen this year...
 
Ubuntu networking

My biggest gripe with Linux/Ubuntu is networking. I consider myself an advanced Windows user, but what frustrates me and send me back to Windows is the malais that is Linux/Ubuntu networking. As a home user I need proper and easy networking. I have 4 PCs at home (two gaming rigs) all networked, If I can't network and do easy file sharing AS IN WINDOWS then Ubuntu still has a long way to go.

Ubuntu has just about everything sorted out and very easy to use, now how about networking with Windows and other Linux machines ? Why can't I just click on the networking, windows network and browse/connect to my windows machines ? I have the habit of first trying an OS using virtualbox running on Windows before I go for a dual boot. I am way past the time of my life where I would sit for hours and fiddle trying to get things to work, in this case, ubuntu networking. I have absolutely no desire to edit the smb.conf file, no desire (and no need to know) to install any samba components. Why should I ? It should just work.
I've even bought a license for the Crossover Linux standard and gamer edition, which lets one run most commercial Windows games on Ubuntu. I've tested Office 2007 using Crossover and it runs like a dream :)

If any of you can advise me how I can easily, as in Windows easy, network my laptop (which can't run games anyway) then please let me know.
 
gerasmus said:
My biggest gripe with Linux/Ubuntu is networking. I consider myself an advanced Windows user, but what frustrates me and send me back to Windows is the malais that is Linux/Ubuntu networking. As a home user I need proper and easy networking. I have 4 PCs at home (two gaming rigs) all networked, If I can't network and do easy file sharing AS IN WINDOWS then Ubuntu still has a long way to go.

Ubuntu has just about everything sorted out and very easy to use, now how about networking with Windows and other Linux machines ? Why can't I just click on the networking, windows network and browse/connect to my windows machines ? I have the habit of first trying an OS using virtualbox running on Windows before I go for a dual boot. I am way past the time of my life where I would sit for hours and fiddle trying to get things to work, in this case, ubuntu networking. I have absolutely no desire to edit the smb.conf file, no desire (and no need to know) to install any samba components. Why should I ? It should just work.
I've even bought a license for the Crossover Linux standard and gamer edition, which lets one run most commercial Windows games on Ubuntu. I've tested Office 2007 using Crossover and it runs like a dream :)

If any of you can advise me how I can easily, as in Windows easy, network my laptop (which can't run games anyway) then please let me know.
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Are you trying to network virtual machines or actual machines? Cos the former can be quite tricky, even Windows VM's running on a Windows host.
My experience with Ubuntu networking so far (as a very very advanced Windows user - it's my job) has been thus:
click "places - network - browse to machine - enter password (if it's not saved) - open share". That's with a mix of Ubunut, Mint, Windows SBS, Windows XP and Windows 7 both at home and at work.
So far, so smooth, tbh I've had more problems connecting Windows to Windows, on many occasions.
Edit: Oh, I've never needed to edit any conf files or touch any other settings to get this to work. Are you sure your lower-level stuff's all working? (IP addresses etc.) Of course, if you're using a VM, it doesn't matter. If you've missed one setting or tickbox in your virtual network adapter settings or something, you're stuffed.
 
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Back to the topic - awesome news, I was expecting Canonical to do their usual end-of-the-month-only thing with Meerkat. I really want some of those new features now, plus my 9.04 install is getting long in the tooth.
 
gerasmus said:
My biggest gripe with Linux/Ubuntu is networking. I consider myself an advanced Windows user, but what frustrates me and send me back to Windows is the malais that is Linux/Ubuntu networking. As a home user I need proper and easy networking. I have 4 PCs at home (two gaming rigs) all networked, If I can't network and do easy file sharing AS IN WINDOWS then Ubuntu still has a long way to go.

Ubuntu has just about everything sorted out and very easy to use, now how about networking with Windows and other Linux machines ? Why can't I just click on the networking, windows network and browse/connect to my windows machines ? I have the habit of first trying an OS using virtualbox running on Windows before I go for a dual boot. I am way past the time of my life where I would sit for hours and fiddle trying to get things to work, in this case, ubuntu networking. I have absolutely no desire to edit the smb.conf file, no desire (and no need to know) to install any samba components. Why should I ? It should just work.
I've even bought a license for the Crossover Linux standard and gamer edition, which lets one run most commercial Windows games on Ubuntu. I've tested Office 2007 using Crossover and it runs like a dream :)

If any of you can advise me how I can easily, as in Windows easy, network my laptop (which can't run games anyway) then please let me know.
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I don't know what Samba components you need to be able to see Windows machines in Places->Network->Windows Network, but all you need to be able to log onto them is to type "smb://192.168.0.1" or other such IP address in the location bar (Go->Location) of a file browser window.
 
dacha said:
I don't know what Samba components you need to be able to see Windows machines in Places->Network->Windows Network, but all you need to be able to log onto them is to type "smb://192.168.0.1" or other such IP address in the location bar (Go->Location) of a file browser window.
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Your answer here proves my point. If I where to have been a absolutely clueless user, how would I have known where to find the IP Adress, and how would I have known to type the smb://IP adress ? One should just be able open Places->Network->Windows Network and simply be able to browse/access the machines/network shares as per your security.
 
gerasmus said:
Your answer here proves my point. If I where to have been a absolutely clueless user, how would I have known where to find the IP Adress, and how would I have known to type the smb://IP adress ? One should just be able open Places->Network->Windows Network and simply be able to browse/access the machines/network shares as per your security.
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Dude, seriously, opening "Network places" etc. seldom even works on Windows only workgroup (no server) networks. Besides, as I said above, you're using a VM aren't you? You're pretty much guaranteed to struggle with those. Install a proper stand-alone PC and you'll have NO problems.
(Incidentally, the most reliable way to connect workgrouped Windows machines to each other is to go "start-run- \\servername\sharename - HEY, that's the same thing gerasmus just suggested, go figure...)
 
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Actually if you set the VM's network in VirtualPC or VMware of whatever you use to bridge the VM;s network to the Host OS's network, then it is like a normal pc on the network, problem is only if the vm software is set to nat the network.
 
I am currently upgrading my machine 10.04 to 10.10 rc, what can I say I am really quite keen to see what this latest offering has, 10.04 has been a really pleasant experience, and by the sound of things 10.10 has the potential to be even better.

Just as with anything different, Linux simply requires a little time to get used to slightly different ways of doing the same thing.
 
Just installed 10.10 rc Netbook edition and love it. Now I can use my Netbook again - was just about to go back to 9.10

Word of warning, the new interface is a bit clumsy at first but once you figure it out, its really awesome. Going to use my Netbook at G-South Africa next month now
 
DGremlin said:
I am currently upgrading my machine 10.04 to 10.10 rc, what can I say I am really quite keen to see what this latest offering has, 10.04 has been a really pleasant experience, and by the sound of things 10.10 has the potential to be even better.

Just as with anything different, Linux simply requires a little time to get used to slightly different ways of doing the same thing.
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Same... hopefully the 1,002mb download I've just gone through to upgrake Kubuntu 10.04 to Ubuntu 10.10 RC will include most of the 10th's releases. Not that I'd know; 10.04 was my first Linux install in about 7 years or so. :o
 
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