Android 4.3 running on several devices already, server logs show

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When Google I/O is underway, there’s usually some new Android version waiting to be unveiled. Despite all the murmurs about Android 5.0 Key Lime Pie, this I/O might bring just 4.3 Jelly Bean.

The version number first showed up in logs of the Android Police website and now Android Authority is reporting its server logs show visits from Android 4.3 devices. They seem to run newer builds than the JWR23B that visited AP (note: the first letter of the build number matches the first letter of the codename).

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But more interesting is the list of device names that run version 4.3. There’s the Nexus 4 phone, the older Galaxy Nexus, the two Google tablets, Nexus 7 and Nexus 10. Then there are two surprising entries - a yet to be announced Huawei U8819 and a rather low-end Pantech Breakout (listed as ADR8995).

The Breakout packs a single-core 1GHz processor and just 512MB of RAM. If that’s enough oomph for Android 4.3 then the news should be good as far as the eligibility for upgrades of old devices is concerned (it would fall to the manufacturer).

It’s interesting that the Pantech reported it’s running Android 4.3.1 Key Lime Pie so there is a chance the new version of the OS will get a new name, but it could just be an eager dev putting in the wrong name in the build.

Google I/O starts in two weeks, but the two-day keynote has been cut down to a single day, which potentially means no groundbreaking changes (and no 5.0).
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some clowns are running 4.3.3 - unless they're faking their UA just to cause a stir...
 
Android 4.3 Ready, Could Debut At Google I/O

With only weeks until Google I/O kicks off, Android users are getting anxious to see new operating system. Despite previous rumours, unfortunately, we won't see the debut of Android 5.0 Key Lime Pie. According to Android Authority, recent server logs indicate that Google is working on Android 4.3 Jelly Bean operating system. The logs reveal an intriguing list of device names that run version 4.3.
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Read more here: Sauce
 
Nothing wrong with that, gives manufacturers a chance to catch up, plus there is not much missing from the OS.
 
If a low-end Pantech Breakout comes with a single-core 1GHz processor, 512MB of RAM and is capable of running Android 4.3, this means that a lot more devices could get the mentioned operating system.
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I hope this includes support for older devices and not just optimization for new ones with similar specs and to be honest They need this optimization else they WILL lose the race. Nokia Lumia 520 and friends going to sweep up the low end and gobble Android market share up from behind if they not careful.
 
I have a noob question :

I have an S3 and when I asked the guy at work to install a certain version, he said it wasn't available for the S3 yet. When I read review on a Nexus tab, they say a pro of it is that it gets updates faster than the rest.

Why would something get it faster and some phones need to wait before installing a certain version? Is it not like installing Windows on a PC?
 
AlphaJohn said:
I hope this includes support for older devices and not just optimization for new ones with similar specs and to be honest They need this optimization else they WILL lose the race. Nokia Lumia 520 and friends going to sweep up the low end and gobble Android market share up from behind if they not careful.
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Nokia? Gobble up the low end market?
I don't think so.
And I don't think low end phones like the Galaxy Pocket need JB or KLP.
GB and ICS is enough to keep those phones going considering their specs.
Enhancements to those handsets would be futile.
Well it depends what this year has in store for "low end" phones - then perhaps we could talk about ICS or JB for them.

Dolby said:
I have a noob question :

I have an S3 and when I asked the guy at work to install a certain version, he said it wasn't available for the S3 yet. When I read review on a Nexus tab, they say a pro of it is that it gets updates faster than the rest.

Why would something get it faster and some phones need to wait before installing a certain version? Is it not like installing Windows on a PC?
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Nexus devices are basically Google's own phones/tablets.
They commission a manufacturer to build a phone or tablet to their specification.
Also there is no bloatware from mobile operators on the phone - like VLive or whatever.
Phones are unlocked internationally.

Its a Vanilla Android experience, as Google themselves would intend and want Android to be.
The updates come Over-the-air (OTA) directly from Google.
So no waiting on SamsungSA and Vodacom, etc to do their own testing of the software, etc.
Directly to your Nexus device, reboots the phone installing the update and then you're at least 3-4 months ahead of the pack with your new version of Android ;)
 
Dolby said:
I have a noob question :

I have an S3 and when I asked the guy at work to install a certain version, he said it wasn't available for the S3 yet. When I read review on a Nexus tab, they say a pro of it is that it gets updates faster than the rest.

Why would something get it faster and some phones need to wait before installing a certain version? Is it not like installing Windows on a PC?
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Nexus devices use vanilla Android. Samsung, Sony, HTC etc. all customise Android with their own apps, themes etc so you have to wait for them to basically **** a specific Android version up to their own flavour before it will run on your device.
 
Dolby said:
I have a noob question :

I have an S3 and when I asked the guy at work to install a certain version, he said it wasn't available for the S3 yet. When I read review on a Nexus tab, they say a pro of it is that it gets updates faster than the rest.

Why would something get it faster and some phones need to wait before installing a certain version? Is it not like installing Windows on a PC?
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Each phone developer wants to install their carpware before they release an update. "Power users" just download the newer version without the bloatware and it works straight away (mostly - there are programmers on xda forums that optimize the code for each device. Have a look there, it's quite easy to flash your phone/tablet).
 
So is there anyway for us simply get that vanilla version?
Download it from the net and bypass Samsung/Vodacom?
 
Dolby said:
So is there anyway for us simply get that vanilla version?
Download it from the net and bypass Samsung/Vodacom?
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Yes. When it comes out they will generally release a ROM on xda developers.

It wont be official but it will generally still be pretty good.
 
Shake&Bake said:
Nokia? Gobble up the low end market?
I don't think so.
And I don't think low end phones like the Galaxy Pocket need JB or KLP.
GB and ICS is enough to keep those phones going considering their specs.
Enhancements to those handsets would be futile.
Well it depends what this year has in store for "low end" phones - then perhaps we could talk about ICS or JB for them.
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My guess is you have not seen or worked with the 520 in person? This might help http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=5322&idPhone2=3608

If you look at its specs vs performance and price its loads smoother and better experience than any Android in the same place range. Look I am not gonna swap my Android for any Windows phone ever, for one simple reason, I love direct access to my file systems and also customize the crap out of my phones, but for end users that just want a simple smartphone, it ticks all the boxes and does so with style and without breaking the bank.
 
AlphaJohn said:
My guess is you have not seen or worked with the 520 in person? This might help http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=5322&idPhone2=3608

If you look at its specs vs performance and price its loads smoother and better experience than any Android in the same place range. Look I am not gonna swap my Android for any Windows phone ever, for one simple reason, I love direct access to my file systems and also customize the crap out of my phones, but for end users that just want a simple smartphone, it ticks all the boxes and does so with style and without breaking the bank.
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Not played with it hey.

But the specs make it seem more mid-ranged than low end, IMO.

What price does the 520 come in at?
Also you're comparing with a device from 2 years before - the specs certainly will be in the Nokia's favour.
 
Pooky said:
Yes. When it comes out they will generally release a ROM on xda developers.

It wont be official but it will generally still be pretty good.
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You neglect to mention that 8 times out of ten the clean roms break something or sometimes give you a worse experience. From constant restars to Wifi not working and so on.
Short yes you can do it,
Long be prepaired to break something.

My TF101 on EOS Nightly can not use Google Now (App crashes) and reboots for no reason at least once a week.
My Xperia Play lose gamepad controles on some games.
My Wife's S3 gave so much crap that she told me to put it back to stock or else she is gonna get an iPhone, and yes I tried loads of different ROMs and all had there unique quirk that if you can live with it is ok but do not expect a 100% smooth experience.

I know some people here gonna argue with me and say they never had any issues and I can bank guarantee you that they are all lying. XDA forums of every ROM can prove my point, not one of them doesn't have some sort of complaint.
 
Shake&Bake said:
Not played with it hey.

But the specs make it seem more mid-ranged than low end, IMO.

What price does the 520 come in at?
Also you're comparing with a device from 2 years before - the specs certainly will be in the Nokia's favour.
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Oops my bad. that was the wrong link, mented to post http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjaMc46nXYY

As for 2 year old device, wasn't ment to link it to that one. I just looked at it just now cause my friend's son got one yesterday and I was amazed/impressed at how smooth this thing ran, for R1900.00 it was well worth it if you ask me. In fact if my daughter ever wanna jump off the BB band wagon this 520 would be the 1st one she would jump for.
 
AlphaJohn said:
Oops my bad. that was the wrong link, mented to post http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjaMc46nXYY

As for 2 year old device, wasn't ment to link it to that one. I just looked at it just now cause my friend's son got one yesterday and I was amazed/impressed at how smooth this thing ran, for R1900.00 it was well worth it if you ask me. In fact if my daughter ever wanna jump off the BB band wagon this 520 would be the 1st one she would jump for.
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Aha :D :)

cool - will check out that youtube link a bit later - at the office and blocked.

R1900 - that's a price that'll knock Blackberry out of the way with the now defunct BIS!
 
AlphaJohn said:
You neglect to mention that 8 times out of ten the clean roms break something or sometimes give you a worse experience. From constant restars to Wifi not working and so on.
Short yes you can do it,
Long be prepaired to break something.

My TF101 on EOS Nightly can not use Google Now (App crashes) and reboots for no reason at least once a week.
My Xperia Play lose gamepad controles on some games.
My Wife's S3 gave so much crap that she told me to put it back to stock or else she is gonna get an iPhone, and yes I tried loads of different ROMs and all had there unique quirk that if you can live with it is ok but do not expect a 100% smooth experience.

I know some people here gonna argue with me and say they never had any issues and I can bank guarantee you that they are all lying. XDA forums of every ROM can prove my point, not one of them doesn't have some sort of complaint.
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I agree with you there may be some issues, definitely when the ROMS first come out.

However, after a while they iron out most of them. I am using a motorola defy/mb525 on a custom ROM and don't have one issue, it's super fast and looks way better than the motorola stock.
 
AlphaJohn said:
You neglect to mention that 8 times out of ten the clean roms break something or sometimes give you a worse experience. From constant restars to Wifi not working and so on.
Short yes you can do it,
Long be prepaired to break something.

My TF101 on EOS Nightly can not use Google Now (App crashes) and reboots for no reason at least once a week.
My Xperia Play lose gamepad controles on some games.
My Wife's S3 gave so much crap that she told me to put it back to stock or else she is gonna get an iPhone, and yes I tried loads of different ROMs and all had there unique quirk that if you can live with it is ok but do not expect a 100% smooth experience.

I know some people here gonna argue with me and say they never had any issues and I can bank guarantee you that they are all lying. XDA forums of every ROM can prove my point, not one of them doesn't have some sort of complaint.
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Not disagreeing with you, but those type of experiences are also largely to do with undercooked ROM sources. Two of the devices you mentioned use some of the most closed source platforms around (Tegra and Exynos).
 
Maverick Jester said:
Not disagreeing with you, but those type of experiences are also largely to do with undercooked ROM sources. Two of the devices you mentioned use some of the most closed source platforms around (Tegra and Exynos).
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That has nothing to do with it:

Tegra: http://nv-tegra.nvidia.com/gitweb/?p=linux-2.6.git;a=summary
Exynos: http://opensource.samsung.com/

The CPU chipset has nothing to do with it. If you said the 3rd party chips like WiFI and so on yes they I would agree.

I can continue like my old HTC Desire HD that had WiFi issues on ICS and so on. The fact remains there is countless of complaints on every ROMs xda page so its good to warn people about it. Like I said before, you might find one with quirks that you can live with but do not go in thinking everything is going to be hunky dory from the get go.
 
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